[SodaPopinski]

Originally Posted by rocketeer

why exactly? wouldn't it be alright for a president who does possess foreign policy experience to have a vice president that lacks that same experience? and then obviously the vice president will gain experience learning from and with the president?

kinda like if an experienced basketball coach hires an inexperienced assistant and that allows them to gain experience while not being the head guy.

her lack of foreign policy experience is way overblown. it would be a problem if neither the president or vice president had experience, and while it would be preferable that both had experience, i don't see why this is such a big deal.

and please can we stop with the "heartbeat away" bull****. because it's ridiculous.

If the "foreign policy experience" question is so overblown, then why did McCain's own campaign use it as a reason why people shouldn't vote for Obama? That's the whole point.

Before John McCain debates with Barack Obama, it would be nice if he finished the debate with himself.

-Pop

[Dan]

Originally Posted by rocketeer

why exactly? wouldn't it be alright for a president who does possess foreign policy experience to have a vice president that lacks that same experience?

not being terribly experienced in it, and having NO experience are not the same thing. Arguing that your opponent doesn't have enough experience and then having the VP candidate be someone with (at best) as little experience as your opponent, is flip flopping.

McCain and Palin had met maybe once before today. She had no idea what his policy was on Iraq, or anything ABOUT Iraq.

what is her strong suit, then? Usually if you have a VP candidate, they have a strong suit (like with Biden you could argue, is foreign policy). What is her strong suit?

She's good looking? She's "an average Joan"?

and then obviously the vice president will gain experience learning from and with the president?

I would hope that if you are running arguably one of top 3 jobs in the world (President is one, what Alan Greenspan was is one, and I'd say VP is one)...I'd hope that you'd be more qualified than what she is.

She is just so under qualified that it's pathetic. Her qualifications is that she's a woman, a mom and conservative.

neat-oh.

kinda like if an experienced basketball coach hires an inexperienced assistant and that allows them to gain experience while not being the head guy.

But they don't hire that person to be the next in line. And you're talking about the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES, not a basketball coach.

her lack of foreign policy experience is way overblown. it would be a problem if neither the president or vice president had experience, and while it would be preferable that both had experience, i don't see why this is such a big deal.

Because the VP tends to travel the world. They should know what we're doing in the world and why what we do here affects people out there.

and please can we stop with the "heartbeat away" bull****. because it's ridiculous.

No it's not. Biden is also a 'heart beat" away from being president. It's a matter of truth, not hyperbole.

Would you want Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader being VP?

You want someone who is qualified to be VP, and potentially President. She is neither.

[barfo]

Originally Posted by Dan

and was Miss Alaska, and doesn't know John McCain's policy on Iraq.

Not Miss Alaska. She was Miss Congeniality.

barfo

[barfo]

Originally Posted by rocketeer

and please can we stop with the "heartbeat away" bull****. because it's ridiculous.

American men have a life expectancy of 75.2 years. McCain is 72. Do the math.

barfo

[blazerboy30]

Originally Posted by SodaPopinski

If "reform and change" is McCain's campaign platform, he's going to have trouble reconciling that with the fact that in the senate he voted with Bush and the rest of his party 95% of the time.

How is that change from the current policies?

-Pop

And what percentage of the time did Obama vote along his party lines? In 2005-2006, Obama voted along party lines 97% of the time.

Yet, somehow it is valid for Obama to preach "reform, hope and change"???

Wow. Nice try.

[rocketeer]

Originally Posted by barfo

American men have a life expectancy of 75.2 years. McCain is 72. Do the math.

barfo

i didn't know that 3 years was equivalent to a heartbeat. and if you really think that being the president and having the absolute best medical care and treatment that is available in the world won't make a difference, then i don't have anything else to say to you on the issue. the odds of mccain dying in office should he win the presidency are very slim.

[blazerboy30]

Originally Posted by Dan

not being terribly experienced in it, and having NO experience are not the same thing. Arguing that your opponent doesn't have enough experience and then having the VP candidate be someone with (at best) as little experience as your opponent, is flip flopping.

I think you're reaching here. McCain never attacked Obama for not having a VP with experience. He has attacked Obama directly for not having experience. That is valid.

Of course, if you feel that the VP's experience has a large influence on the President, that is also valid. But this isn't McCain flip-flopping.

Originally Posted by Dan

She is just so under qualified that it's pathetic. Her qualifications is that she's a woman, a mom and conservative.

This is funny because it can be flipped around so easily. Let me try.
Obama is so under qualified it's pathetic. His qualifications are that he's black, a family man, and a liberal.

[HB]

He will be 77 by the end of his first term.

[rocketeer]

Originally Posted by Dan

not being terribly experienced in it, and having NO experience are not the same thing. Arguing that your opponent doesn't have enough experience and then having the VP candidate be someone with (at best) as little experience as your opponent, is flip flopping.

except there is a different between being president and vice president.

But they don't hire that person to be the next in line. And you're talking about the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES, not a basketball coach.

what experience did avery johnson having coaching a basketball team? he played pg. they hired him to be next in line. that does happen in basketball. and yes obviously being the president is a much bigger job than being a basketball coach.

No it's not. Biden is also a 'heart beat" away from being president. It's a matter of truth, not hyperbole.

if you're going to mention it about one, you should mention it about both. but it act as if it is likely that mccain could just drop dead at any second is laughable.

You want someone who is qualified to be VP, and potentially President. She is neither.

yes of course you do. if you look around, you will have seen i haven't commented on whether she was a good choice or not. i know little to nothing about her. but the criticisms of her lack of experience somehow contradicting them saying that obama doesn't have experience(when there is a big difference in being president and vice president) and the "heartbeat away" are just stupid and not true(yes the heartbeat away is true, but it's true for any person in any circumstance anywhere in the world. to bring it up only heard is ridiculous).

[rocketeer]

Originally Posted by SodaPopinski

If the "foreign policy experience" question is so overblown, then why did McCain's own campaign use it as a reason why people shouldn't vote for Obama? That's the whole point.

Before John McCain debates with Barack Obama, it would be nice if he finished the debate with himself.

-Pop

well in obama's case he is running for president. wouldn't you want the president to have experience?

in this case, she is running with mccain as vice president. while of course you would want her to have experience, the vice president having experience isn't nearly as important as the president having experience.

[HB]

The experience issues are valid. A vice president in the case of something terrible happening to a president, is there to take over that position. Mccain's age does make one wonder what will happen to him. Especially since has battled with cancer twice in his lifetime. I dont recall human science developing a pill for immortality just yet.

[barfo]

Originally Posted by rocketeer

i didn't know that 3 years was equiv