Draco

By popular demand the list continues. Zach had 100% of the vote at 13 votes, obviously he will win the award as the blazers best player.

Earlier vote on #1

Thread on blazers best player

On to who is the 2nd best. We'll just continue down the line till we get board or run out of blazers.

Minstrel

I think Shareef Abdur-Rahim is probably the most talented player on the roster and in terms of production, as a leading starter, he's second only to Randolph.

So, he'd be my clear #2.

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Playmaker0017

We may not agree on politics, but we definitely agree on this.

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quick

Its either Ratliff or Miles come on it just has to be.SAR hasn't done enough that convinces me that he is second or third best player on the team.What was his best game as a blazer?

Playmaker0017

Suprisingly enough, talent and experience does exist outside of being a Blazer.

If Kobe was traded to the Blazers tomorrow, would he not be one of the best players on the team - even though he had NEVER done anything as a Blazer?

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Draco

Wow its pretty close, 3 to 3 to 4 so far. I'll leave this thread going for a few days till we come to a better consensus.


I choose Ratliff because I think his value to our team is much higher then SAR or Miles. Center is one of the hardest positions to fill and Ratliff is right up there as one of the better centers in the league behind Yao and Shaq. It is very easy to find a legit SF/PF, there are plenty of them out there.

While I think Miles will have a better future then Ratliff, I was thinking more from the point of who would be the most important piece to the blazers winning a playoff series tommorow. If you had to pick one player out of this list it would have to be Ratliff.

Ed O

I think it's SAR by a wide margin. No other player on the Blazers (outside of Zach) is capable of doing the things that SAR is offensively and on the boards.

A couple of underused months as a Blazer doesn't detract from 8 years of borderline all-star play, and at 27 SAR is still in his early prime and will get a chance to excel either in Portland or somewhere else soon.

Ed O.

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Playmaker0017

That isn't the question asked though.

If that is what you are asking you need to change the name of the vote to "Most Valuable Players on the Blazer's Roster Last Year".

But, what you asked is "Who is the Best Player?" Which implies - who has the most talent.

You should probably clarify, because I too would have voted for either Randolph or Ratliff as the 2nd most valuable player and one of those two for the number one slot.

Instead I chose Reef for both number one and number two, because I think talent wise he is the number one player or possibly the number two.

Just my .02

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Dan

since I believe "who's the 2nd best player on our team" is subjective, I used it as the 2nd most importand player, and I voted Ratliff.

Is SAR more talented? No question.

And if Kobe was traded/signed with the Blazers, he'd start the first day, no matter who was ahead of him in the depth chart. SAR isn't in his class.

It's really not a fair comparison, because DA isn't just a little worse (in some areas) than Kobe is, he's a LOT worse...and Zach isn't all that much worse than SAR in some areas, and better in others.

The comparison between SAR and Zach is much much closer (than a lot of people want to admit)..whereas no one with an IQ above pond scum, would suggest that DA is close to as good as Kobe is.

Maybe if the team traded for an injury prone generally poor shooting 2 guard who's really not worth the contract he signed (can someone think of anyone who'd be a DA clone?) this line of arguement would work better.

Kobe is, bottom line, much better than anyone on the blazers currently, and outside of Clyde Drexler (Drexler was better) better than anyone who's ever played on the Blazers.

SAR simply isn't. Thats not a knock on SAR, thats just the truth. And if anyone thinks I'm slighting him, go pay attention to my "list" earlier, you'd see where I'm not.

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Playmaker0017

Not really sure if you were directing this to me or not. I figured you were because of the Kobe reference. If not, ignore it.

You might have. So, might the other person.

I think it should be clarified.

Never said he would. But, Reef is far more talented then Ratliff and Miles combined. (well, maybe not combined, but individually)

Huh? I'm not even talking Zach.

When I mentioned Kobe - I mentioned that he still had not performed one thing as a Blazer -- which was the contention of the poster above about Reef.

He said Reef proved nothing. So, all the games outside of the time he was a Blazer count for nothing using this line of reasoning. Thus, Kobe wouldn't make the list.

It was meant to be EXTREME. I was even going to use MJ in his youth as my extreme example. It was meant to show that games outside of Portland SHOULD count and that if you use that as a measure then there is no question Reef should be #1 or #2.

One should look at the Portland experience as an anomoly in his career and certainly not the norm.

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Dan

sorry, I was having a brain fart.
sorry, I was having a brain fart. I was thinking as the #1 best player dealy (I was reading that thread before I responded to this one)
other things said to further the argument even tho I actually have nothing worth arguing over in my post go here:

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total brain fart on my part. My brain combined two seperate threads..I kept wondering where all the zach references went.

please excuse my dear aunt sally.

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meru

[quote]Originally posted by <b>Hap</b>:
Hmm - I loved Clyde as a Blazer (and even as a Rocket) and I loathe Bryant, but I'd have to say it's pretty close. Bryant's certainly a better shooter, probably a better defender, and seems better in the clutch. But even he can't match Clyde for athleticism and Drexler was the king of the open court.

But aren't you forgetting Bill Walton? Walton, in his one and a half healthy seasons as a Blazer was clearly better than either, albeit at a different position.

And if we're allowed to include the best seasons of Blazer players (even if they were had not on the Blazers) then Scottie and Sabas leap ahead of Bryant too.

tlong

I went with Theo. It cannot be overstated what this guy means to the team. He can dominate games from the defensive end.

Dan