KingSpeed

Furthermore, are you a real Blazer fan?

Why do you not care that we never lost a playoff series in which we had HCA during Sheed's tenure here? Why do you not care that we beat the Jazz without HCA in 1999?

Stevenson

You MUST be someone's little brother

KingSpeed

Why do you continue to presume stuff about me? First you tell me that I don't care about your facts about Shakespeare and Madison. Now, you tell me that I'm someone's little brother. Don't presume stuff about me. In fact, let's not make this thread about me. Let's make this thread bout answering my question or not posting. Please.

Thank you.

SheedSoNasty

Personally, I don't care because he's no longer with the team. How is it relevant to the future of the franchise? Do you want to bring him back? That's an honest question to you, NathanLane. Do you think we should sign and trade for him? He's not here anymore and it's not relevant to the future or the present of the franchise, I don't take it as reminising of all the 'good ole days', so what's the point? For me, all it does is point out all the blunders of the franchise over the last 7-8 years... 'this is what COULD have been'... 'this is why we're losing'... I just don't understand the point. Maybe it's because one can't understand the intonation of words and frases through a computer, but I just don't see the point of bringing up all of these negative aspects.

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mixum

how about nathan leaves our forum and gos wherever sheed goes....that way you can talk about him with the fans of whose team hes on.

KingSpeed

Why analyze my question? Answer it or don't.

I'm pointing out something special about a former Blazer. I'm curious if anyone else in the league has matched this accomplishment. That's all. Interesting-- no one seems to get so upset if someone brings up Sabonis in here.

KingSpeed

Mixum- it's an interesting question. Answer it or don't post. I'm still a Blazers fan and I would have preferred the Blazers win the title instead of the Pistons this year. In fact, nothing in post here says that I even LIKE Sheed. I'm just pointing out a specific accomplishment and wondering if anyone has matched it. I didn't even share an opinion. I just stated a fact and asked a question. Why does this anger you so?

KingSpeed

What negative aspects did I bring up in this thread, SheedSoNasty?

I didn't say that the Blazers shouldn't have traded Sheed in this thread. I didn't say that the Blazers did ANYTHING wrong in this thread. All I did was point out a positive about the Blazers and Pistons under Sheed and wonder if said accomplishment had been matched by the teams of any other single player. That's it.

Any negatives came from YOUR head.

lalooska

I'm guessing Stoudamire falls into that category, seeing as both he and Wallace were here at the same time, without prior playoff experience.

Wondering if Wallace ever won a HCA series without Pippen? Or Stoudamire? I don't know the answer, but my point is, maybe it's not due to Wallace alone, but the combined level of talent of the team.

My personal feeling is that Wallace does have a positive effect on the basketball court, but is more the benficiary of talented teams when it comes to your stat.

BTW, I heard he has the second best winning percentage on Tuesdays and Saturdays when the day of the month ends with a 2.

mixum

Dude, I dont care what sheed did...MAYBE HE DID...good for him but its too bad no blazer fans want to remeber him, so out of respect for the other posters...you should stop with the sheed crap cause we have moved on.....hes in the past and should stay there.

nathan in other forums people get on you alot cause you rub them the wrong way...i have always liked your posts(other than sheed posts) but you gotta stop with this sheed crap cause its annoying! I think you have more heart than most fans i have ever seen but you just seem to damn obsessesd with sheed!

MOVE ON and we can talk about the blazers future.

Stevenson

mommmmmmmmmm! Billy won't answer my question! Billy says I should stop bugging him!

KingSpeed

Yeah, he just did with the Pistons (a team which LOST with HCA in the previous two years).

And NO, Stoudamire does not answer the question. Damon has never lost with HCA, true, but he has only won without it ONCE while Sheed has won without it THREE TIMES (including one game in which he GUARANTEED it).

lalooska

Sounds like you already know the answer to your question, then.

The only other 2 times where he was a part of a team that won a series without HCA was this years Pistons, where he arguably contributed the least to any team previous.

So I suppose what you're getting at is either Wallace is great, or he is at the right place at the right time. I'd go for the latter.

KingSpeed

I'm not sure I know the answer to the question. I'm wondering if I've missed someone.

As for Sheed contributing the LEAST, what are you talking about? He made more FGs in the playoffs than Finals MVP Billups did. He was the top shotblocker in the entire NBA Finals. And he was the reason the entire Pistons team believed they could win the title. They all said so. What can you contribute more to a team that the BELIEF that the whole thing can be won?

lalooska

My point is that on Portland, he was considered the go to, first option. On Detroit he was mostly a 3rd option, and in some games he went most of a half without much PT. Seems like you'd want a great player out on the floor more often.

Detroit had Hamilton, Billups, Ben Wallace, and then Rasheed as its leaders. He just happened to be on a team with more talented and healthy players than their competition.

Interesting topic/stat, I'm just not sure what it means if Wallace is the only one to do that.

When we talk about arbitrary things such as these, there is a chance that any of us can be right. And most often times, there's not much any of us can say that will change someone's opinion on such things.

I say coincidence, you say not. Maybe we're both right, eh?