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07-04-2004, 12:41 PM
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The point is that Sheed's teams have overachieved in the playoffs THREE TIMES but have NEVER underachieved.
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Then there's the whole underachieving in the regular season that caused his teams not to have home court advantage, but we'll let that one go. We could also look more at his home court record (for instance losing 2 of 3 against LA in 2000), but why bother? Go ask Detroit fans.
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07-04-2004, 02:03 PM
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The fact is UNDENIABLE: when Sheed's teams have HCA, they win. And in three series, he won without HCA. Deal with it. Can't think of anyone else who is currently in the NBA that has done that.
Go to guy, shmo to guy. Sheed and Billups took just as many shots in the playoffs and Sheed made more. Sheed improved the D and gave them all the belief that they could win. Besides, the Pistons didn't NEED a go to guy, per se. Were any of their Finals wins even close?
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07-04-2004, 02:42 PM
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We'll how many years did the blazers not get HCA?
Great players like Jordan and Bird and Magic we're able to win games in the regular season to put themselves in a position to make a title run. They brought it every game of the REGULAR season too.
As a blazers there we're only 2 teams sheed was on where we had very much HCA and he was surrounded by extremely talented teammates.
Sheed is a good 3rd option but he can't lead a team to a title, and the blazers didn't have the talent to get there soon so it was best to let him go. I'd rather have the ratler and sar then save paul allen 17m this offseason.
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07-04-2004, 02:48 PM
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What's the point of coming into this thread just to mock the content of it? Unless you're a Trailblazer forum moderator, you aren't required to enter this thread. If it's not of interest to you, ignore it.
Entering a thread just to post, "No one cares" is infantile.
Either enter a thread to honestly read and/or take part or ignore it and go to threads you do want to discuss.
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07-04-2004, 03:00 PM
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Draco- Sheed took as many shots as Billups in the playoffs and he made more. Doesn't that make him the 2nd option?
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07-04-2004, 03:15 PM
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It's simple people: if you don't care, DO NOT POST.
This is obviously a thread that centers around Rasheed Wallace, but a massive part of Rasheed's history is as a Blazer.
It is NOT off-topic. It is NOT trolling.
Stop with the name-calling and troublemaking just because you don't like the basis of the thread or what you know of the person that started it.
I'm not going to go back and edit out all the inappropriate comments in this thread, but if any more are made there will be consequences.
If you have any issues with this or any questions about it, please PM me or another moderator. Thank you,
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07-04-2004, 03:18 PM
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Just for the record Darko Milicic's has never lost a series period.
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07-04-2004, 05:09 PM
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07-04-2004, 05:59 PM
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Draco- Sheed took as many shots as Billups in the playoffs and he made more. Doesn't that make him the 2nd option?
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No because billups took more 3's and billups scored more points a game. It is somewhat close though you could call him a 2nd/3rd option.
Sheed still is a very good 2nd/3rd option and he fits into a team like detroit really well its just the blazers don't have that talent so it was time to let him go and at least get some value in return.
Sheed is not a top5 player who can lead a team to a championship by himself, but he is a very good piece to the puzzle.
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07-04-2004, 06:18 PM
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Personally I don't think it's "Sheed's team"..
He is a player on a very good team.
He plugged into a position that really helped them.
I do not believe that he was the reason they won.
Another player would have done just as good..
Besides...he was here for many years on a darn good team.
He surely doesn't play any better there than he did here.
I think they are kind and maybe a little in the honeymoon stage
of their adoration of him.
I don't remember all that drooling over him for the last 8
years he was here.
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07-04-2004, 08:38 PM
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I see
That your new set of Sheed Knee Pad's showed up in the mail today. Having a good time with them?
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07-04-2004, 08:50 PM
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I think the great Wally Walker is equaly as blessed and a great leader like Sheed. I believe he did it.
I wish I could come up with questions like this. You all know, the kind of question that is almost impossible to argue. In a league that has been around as long as the NBA I'm sure there are hundreds of people that never even lost a playoff series. I'm even sure there are people that have never lost a playoff game too.
hasoos: I see That your new set of Sheed Knee Pad's showed up in the mail today. Having a good time with them?
Ease up dude, we can all agree to disagree. I have my issues with the topics as well, but there is no need for slander. For all we know nathan could be the greatest guy ever. Maybe he's a fireman, or gives blood regularly, or helps old people across the street....whatever. He just might like to provoke people. Maybe that's how he has his fun. No harm in that.
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07-04-2004, 09:34 PM
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No single player can carry a team to a championship by himself.
Not Sheed, not ANYONE.
Why would you WANT one player to do it all?
Jackie- ANY OTHER player could have done what Sheed did? NO.
Not true.
There is no other player in the entire league like Rasheed Wallace.
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07-04-2004, 09:35 PM
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For instance, Draco, is T-Mac a top 5 player?
If so, why didn't he lead the Magic to a championship all by himself?
Such logic is ridiculous.
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07-04-2004, 10:01 PM
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"There is no other player in the entire league like Rasheed Wallace."
That's right !
The Invisible Man at times,part time NBA
player.
Mr. CTC
By the way,your post on another thread that Shaq is the greatest player of alltime
got me injured.
I fell off my chair laughing at that one.
Really ?
Of all time?????
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