View Poll Results: What was the biggest screwup of the summer so far?

mook · 07-15-2004, 07:53 PM

So what's the biggest screwup so far?

• Letting Shaq leave LA, and getting a bunch of mediocre talent and a worthless draft pick in exchange.

• Paying Derek Freakin' Fisher $36 mil over six years.

• Losing Tmac and only getting back two redundant guards and Cato.

• Cleveland's incredibly stupid Boozer fiasco.

am I missing any ultra-obvious ones? Skinner's deal doesn't seem as monumentally dumb as these ones.

I meant to make a poll. don't suppose a mod could help me out.

Draco · 07-15-2004, 08:02 PM

you might have to start a new thread for a poll.

Fisher, Boozer, Shaq, Tmac in that order imo.

Ed O · 07-15-2004, 08:04 PM

#1. Cleveland not picking up Boozer's option.

#2. GS massively overpaying Derek Fisher.

#3. Memphis massively overpaying Brian Cardinal.

#4. Indiana trading Harrington for Jackson.

Those are my top 4 so far.

Ed O.

**Dan** · 07-15-2004, 08:09 PM

wow, I'm surprised you didn't put in the option of picking "the blazers screwing up everything humanly possible and therefore ruining our chance of ever competing in the NBA for the next 15 years!!!!!!!!! Let's move hte team! "

Fork · 07-15-2004, 08:35 PM

#1 Cleveland lets Boozer go.

#2 Brian Cardinal

#3 The Boozer situation

#4 Derek Fisher gets paid

#5 The Boozer thing

#6 Toronto takes Arujau at #8

#7-10 Boozer

BlayZa · 07-15-2004, 08:54 PM

id probably say the Boozer thing was #1 , then D-Fish , then T-Mac trade

As far as the signing of Cardinal , I have to give West the benefit of the doubt on this - he knows what he's doing most of the time.

**MJG** · 07-15-2004, 09:03 PM

Poll added, hope I got the options more or less right. Took them from various people around the thread. Also, forgot Cardinal's exact salary, so if it's wrong a mod can fix it.

Boozer is my pick, with Foyal and Fisher right on his tail.

EDIT: Added Foyle, fixed Fisher's salary.

**Minstrel** · 07-15-2004, 09:08 PM

Wow, I can't believe people are nominating the Skinner and Cardinal deals as incredibly stupid. Brian Skinner and Brian Cardinal got deals that were much better, in terms of dollars for production, than many others like the Mehmet Okur deal, the Carlos Boozer deal and the Adonal Foyle deal (maybe the dumbest deal in NBA history).

How are those getting passed over for Cardinal and Skinner? In fact, my list of good buys this offseason are Brent Barry, Brian Skinner and Brian Cardinal.

My list of dumbest moves, in order:

* Signing 29-year old Adonal Foyle (a player oft-injured who has averaged 4.6 ppg and 5.1 rpg career) to a deal worth just over $8 million / year average

* Signing Carlos Boozer, a good-but-not-great power forward to a near-max contract worth an average of about $11 million / year

* Trading Shaquille O'Neal for three non-All Stars including one cap-killer

* Signing Derek Fisher to a full MLE deal plus raises for six years when you already have Nick Van Exel and Speedy Claxton on the roster

* Cleveland letting Carlos Boozer out of his contract, losing a year of underpaid service from a good-but-not-great power forward when he predictably used his freedom to run...to run

mook · 07-15-2004, 09:38 PM

you know, you could probably also add Orlando not drafting Okafor, but there's so much idiocy going around.....

anyway, I don't see the Skinner nor the Cardinal moves as being truly disasterous screwups. to be a real disaster, it almost has to involve a superstar or at least a potential star.

five years from now, people are still going to be talking about these three mistakes in the summer of 2004 above all others:

• Boozer leaving with no compensation.

• Shaq leaving without yielding any top-15 talent in return.

• Losing McGrady and getting only Francis, Cat and Cato in return.

Cleveland gave up the least valuable player, but they also got absolutely no compensation for it in return. At least Orlando and LA can point to some benefits to mitigate their respective disasters.

#1 Boozer

#2 Shaq

#3 McGrady

jackiejackal · 07-15-2004, 09:56 PM

I am stunned at Derek Fisher getting that much.
Again,it points out how little talent there
is in the NBA.

Players that really are second tier are getting enormous salaries...
There's nobody else to sign..

Utah pulled off perhaps the scoop of the summer getting Boozer..wow will he help them !

trifecta · 07-15-2004, 10:41 PM

Boozer got my vote but really, does that count as a screw up?

From what I've read, Boozer essentially lied and basically broke a verbal agreement from which Cleveland was operating. My poor analogy is: Would it be your screw up if your car got broken into while parked in your driveway?

It still is a mess for Cleveland though.

Ed O · 07-15-2004, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by <b>trifecta</b>!
Boozer got my vote but really, does that count as a screw up?

From what I've read, Boozer essentially lied and basically broke a verbal agreement from which Cleveland was operating. My poor analogy is: Would it be your screw up if your car got broken into while parked in your driveway?

What about this analogy: would it be your screw up if you were burglarized after you left your front door open, your LCD bigscreen on, and freshly baked cookies on the mantle?

Even assuming the facts most damning to Boozer (and I think that it's far from a certainty that Boozer made any illegal agreement in order to get out of his deal), it was a stupid move by the Cavs.

Ed O.

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