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07-27-2004, 12:39 PM
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By Nash saying he was going to start Shareef at the 3, it doesn't mean that Miles will be out the door. To quote Nash:
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"What we would envision is Shareef playing in a three-forward rotation, with Zach, Darius and Shareef getting the lion's share of minutes. I would see him playing significantly more than he played for us last year. He is a terrific player, and if he is on our roster, he should be on the floor."
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I don't think Nash/Cheeks are seriously considering starting Shareef at the 3. They're just waiting for a better deal. By telling Shareef and his agent that they're willing to start him at the 3, it shows that they're content on keeping him if they don't start seeing better deals. Its just a chess game.
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07-27-2004, 12:41 PM
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Don't Make Excuses For SAR...
...He's under contract. End of story. He needs to honor his contract, and shut his big mouth.
Count me as one that would like to see him sit on IR for the season.
What a putz!
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07-27-2004, 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by <b>trifecta</b>!
I'm pretty sure it's entirely true if you simply look at the winning percentage after the Sheed trade. (Honestly I haven't looked it up but I'm pretty sure.)
If you want to believe Shareef helped last season then that's fine. I choose not to.
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Whether he helped or not isn't the issue.
The team won a few more games after the trade. But, you'd have to check the competition and their current standings.
It doesn't really matter because they have done precious little to better themselves this year. If they start Reef at SF ... I think it will end up being a monumental mistake (unless Randolph matures a lot).
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07-27-2004, 01:29 PM
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That is garbage. Yeah, let's trade him for players we don't need and contracts we don't want, just b\c...well....we have to.
BS!
He signed a contract & he is bound by it. He can whine, complain and pout all he wants, but the bottom line is POR has NO obligation to trade him. Oh he can make it an unpleasant situation, he can hold out, he & his idiot of an agent can shout to anyone who will listen, but it won't change a damm thing. POR will trade him when it is in their BEST INTEREST, not HIS, to do so and not a moment before. So instead of whining to the press, maybe his agent should get off his a$$ and start trying to help facilitate a deal if he wants his client on a new team so bad.
Does Goodwin even know what POR wants for SAR? His yelling isn't helping the situation, it is HURTING it. What is laughable, is that some people call this being a good agent. I call it being a fool, and doing your client a great disservice. These are the types of things that should be handled through back channels and not through the press, a good agent knows that.
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07-27-2004, 01:43 PM
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It's pretty apparent isn't it? I've never hidden anything or hidden my bias.
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True, you've never hidden your bias, but it's an entirely different matter to say you haven't hidden the reasons for your bias. The latter would be a huge stretch of the truth.
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Much like the fine line between explanation and excuse. You may have inside info, but you're way too close (emotionally) to see things objectively.
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07-27-2004, 02:09 PM
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Hello:
Anti-SAR Fan Club, anyone?
Regards:
Freshtown
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07-27-2004, 02:15 PM
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Playmaker, glad to know you are friends with SAR. It is good to get the player's viewpoint. However, you said that SAR had been promised his "release". Could you please explain this in more detail. Release normally means terminating the contract so that neither side has any obligation to the other.
Do you really mean that when SAR arrived last year that management told him, just be a good boy for 3 months and then we will pay you next year's salary and you will be free to do whatever you want?
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07-27-2004, 02:23 PM
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I would like to hear the Nash side of story, I follow Reef since he got draft but I never heard him talk this way. I want to know did Nash have spoke w/ Reef at all, I strongly believe if Nash is comumicating w/ Reef, he won't talk this way.
And the big pic is between Miles/Reef/Zach, if the line up is SF=Reef, PF=Zach and Miles=backup.
Miles(assume he sign for 1yr) will get piss for bring a backup as he is looking for big pay day after the season and this will hurt his value.
Reef will feel bad as he take over Miles's job.
Zach will get piss as he have to share the post w/ Reef.
Maybe Nash is looking to pack Zach for a stud SG so we don't have to pay him max next yr? This will get us a stud SG that we need and free up $ to sign Miles and resign Reef for a deal around 10 millions?
Telfair vs Telfair
Stud SG vs DA
Miles vs Miles
Reef vs Zach
Theo vs Theo
Which one is better?
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07-27-2004, 02:49 PM
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That is garbage. Yeah, let's trade him for players we don't need and contracts we don't want, just b\c...well....we have to.
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Hey, let's keep a guy who doesn't want to play for us! That's definitely the way to go! 
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07-27-2004, 02:57 PM
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Hey, let's keep a guy who doesn't want to play for us! That's definitely the way to go!
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Or another way to say it: Lets keep a guy so his salary comes off the books next season and if he wants any chance to get a lucrative contract next season, he'll play whether he wants to or not.
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07-27-2004, 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by <b>trifecta</b>!
Or another way to say it: Lets keep a guy so his salary comes off the books next season and if he wants any chance to get a lucrative contract next season, he'll play whether he wants to or not.
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Thats a good point... and I Shareef knows this. He is talking the talk now, but once the seasons starts he'll shut up a bit...
In the summer its fine, but once the season starts you have an obligation to play. Come October, SAR will either be on another team or he'll be playing on the Blazers. I don't see him actually sitting out, or not reporting to tranning camp.
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07-27-2004, 03:27 PM
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Come October, SAR will either be on another team or he'll be playing on the Blazers.
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Way to go out on a limb. 
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07-27-2004, 03:33 PM
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With Paul Allen in money saving mode, he may be happy that Shareef will sit out without pay this year. That's 14 mil + luxery taxes back in Allen's pocket.
Reef, why don't you go try working for a 1.50 over minimum wage and whine your *** off to your manager because you don't like your job. You idiot.
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07-27-2004, 03:41 PM
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If we terminate his contract, would he be able to sign with another team? Or would he have to wait until next year?
I still think Portland can get something good out of SAR. Rashard Lewis...or the trade I suggested with NY that gives us a good bacup center and PF with expiring contracts. I know there is something Portland can work out...NJ is not the only team that wants SAR.
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07-27-2004, 03:44 PM
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