Oldmangrouch

Heck no! Let's trade him for players that can't help the team and whose salaries will not come off the books next summer. Let's shoot ourselves in the foot and make another Grant/Kemp type deal. That'll teach Reef a good lesson!

cimalee

playmaker is aaron goodwin , dude reef is not better than Zach , you are the only one in the world who thinks that

hobojoe

Keep thinking all these salaries coming off the books are going to help you so much, but you do realize if you plan on resigning Miles this offseason and Zach next, you'll be looking at about $7 Million in cap room with no centers on your roster. You'll have no cap room to do anything but get a center, and probably a backup center too while you're at it if you don't draft one. Portland is so far over the cap, Damon's $16 Million, Theo's $11 Million, NVE's $12 Million and SAR's $14.6 Million all coming off the books still doesn't give them much room.

Derek Anderson: 2005-2006 Salary- $9,093,000
Ruben Patterson: 2005-2006 Salary- $6,353,200
Darius Miles: Estimated 2005-2006 Salary- $5,700,000
Zach Randolph: Estimated 2005-2006 Salary- $12,500,000
Sebastian Telfair: 2005-2006 Salary- $1,676,280
Viktor Khryapa: 2005-2006 Salary- $1,095,960
Travis Outlaw: 2005-2006 Salary-$901,800
2005 NBA Draft Pick(1st Rounder)- Estimated $1,300,000
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Estimated Total Salary for 2005-2006 Blazers(Also Assuming they let go of Qyntel Woods, declining the team option, if not add another $2 Million): $38,620,240

Estimated Salary Cap in 2005-2006: $45.8 Million

$45.8 Million - $38.62 Million($40.5 Million if they keep Woods)= $7.18 Million cap room

That leaves Portland with $7.18 Million dollars to find a center as well as fill various other holes. They could probably resign Theo and possibly a cheap backup center and cheap point guard to either start or play behind Telfair depending on how far along he is. The point I'm making is that all these expiring contracts isn't going to just help the team when they come off the books by magically transforming into loads of cap space and good players. Portland would have about $7 Million to fill several holes, and even if that worked out ideally they'd still be losing Damon, NVE and SAR, hardly scrubs.

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hobojoe

I don't think he's the only one. I'm not so sure SAR is better, but certainly not as lopsided as some of you make it seem. Just because Zach put up 20-10 last season doesn't mean anything, SAR's been doing that almost his entire career. Neither are defensive juggernauts, so there's no huge swing there. Really, the only big advantage Randolph has is his age, which is why he's the starter and the guy they're building around, not SAR.

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Playmaker0017

That's original.

That's an opinion.

And yes, I think he is far better than Randolph is. I also think he is currently better then Randolph will be. Personally, I'm not too impressed with Randolph or his game.

He clogs the middle. I don't mean that he likes to play the lane ... I mean he clogs it to the detriment of the team. Sure he grabs a couple o-boards ... but at the expense of never leaving. Heck - the games I watched the refs forgot the lane violations.

He is entirely too selfish. He doesn't recognize the double and is slow to react. He can't pass worht squat - when he even chooses to (which is a rare event).

He doesn't play a smidgeon of defense. I could defend better then Randolph. Heck - there are young preschoolers that give more effort than this guy on the defensive end.

You complain about Reef wanting stats ... and then go on a high-horse about Randolph. Let me tell you one thing about Randolph --- the game is ONLY about Randolph when it comes to Randolph.

I am glad you've been nominated to world spokesperson and have been chosen to represent and speak for all mankind in all matters.

I know I'm extremely Reef biased - but I see his faults and admit to them. I have something of intellect to say on the subject. All you ever do is chime in with "I love Zach" ... "Zach should have my baby" ... "I'll have Zach's baby"...

Don't just say some broad statement like "Zach is better than Reef, you are the only person that thinks he isn't" ... prove it. I don't see it. I haven't seen Randolph do anything that Reef hasn't done better.

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dkap

It's very up in the air at this point if Miles will be back or if it's even worth trying to bring him back. We only have half our roster available to play the same position.

Dan

Playmaker0017

I agree wholeheartedly.

Except, comparing Zach and Reef defensively is a stretch. Reef isn't the next Ron Artest ... but he sure looks like it next to Randolph.

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hobojoe

While I wouldn't give SAR the huge advantage defensively, I will say that he is slightly better. I do agree with you on one thing though, that you have made your case for why you think he's better than Randolph much better than I've seen anyone make the case for Zach over SAR.

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hobojoe

Certainly none of them are starter quality at this point. If SAR proves he can play SF effectively than he is, but I'm not so sure that is true. Patterson certainly can't cut it as a starter, his hustle and heart are fine off the bench but aren't good enough to qualify him as a starter, and neither of the rookies are ready to start or even play all that much. Portland really could use re-signing Miles.

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Playmaker0017

I'd give Reef a hefty edge because he plays better team defense then Randolph.

One on one, I'd give the edge to Reef ... but not by as much as the team defense.

Reef rotates a lot better and knows how to funnel his man. He also doesn't give too many weak fouls. He isn't great on the perimeter, but he's better than Zach. Remember this guy all but shut down McGrady. (even if McGrady was off ... it's no easy task)

Thanks.

I don't mean to seem like I'm saying Zach isn't a good player. I think he is quite good. But, I think he is good to the DETRIMENT of the team. I think if he focused more on defense, unclogged the lane ... he'd be FAR more effective as a basketball player.

Unfortunately, people get caught up in the glitz of numbers and forget that the game is based around a team and a coach and a strategy.

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rattler-n-rollin

HIS AGENT PULLS THE STRINGS REEF JUST MIMICKS THE AaRON GOODWIN VITROL SHAREEF NEEDS TO SHUT HIS AGENT UP AND PLAY BALL OR BE A RETARD AND PISS OFF MR Allen

If ya wet on your masters leg he`ll beat you and send ya the pound{AKA:ATLANTA OR CLIPPERS.}then he`ll get 20/10only again on A looser.

SHAREEF IS A HAS BEEN

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Playmaker0017

Basically, my understanding is that he was told by management, at the end of the year, they would spare nothing to move him. They appreciated his effort and how he handled himself while being asked to take a diminished role.

His reward would be that they spared nothing to get him somewhere that he can:
(A) win
(B) play

They didn't do that, nor have they made the effort. In fact, quite the opposite.

No. Not even close. When he came, they wanted him to "be a good boy". In fact, there was talk that he was supposed to become the starter. But player relations were taking a beating from the get-go. Reef self-aborted the attept.

He understood what his role had to be ... and his role was certainly NOT to ruin team chemistry.

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Playmaker0017

Actually, it is Allen that is in love with Reef.

Allen REALLY wants Reef.

You don't quite get it ... Reef never wanted to LEAVE Atlanta.

Besides ... Portland isn't exactly a WINNER right now. Portland will be lucky to be much better than the Clip this year.

Yes ... has been. Interesting. He's younger then Garnett ... yet, he's a has been.

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ABM