Ben

That's a very good point.

Of the two, any unbiased fan would pick Pau over Zach.

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Some of us just watch basketball for the fun of it...While others harp on legal troubles....

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Playmaker0017

Watching for the fun of it is fine - but when you debate contracts, you have to take other things into consideration.

While YOU may not care about off-the-court issues ... as an investment, the team should care. It makes the pricetag a little riskier.

If you fail to see this, then you fail to be in this debate.

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Playmaker0017

And this opinion is valid and strong? This well-formed argument is somehow more accurate than those with actual points?

Zach scores a LOT more than Wallace and has more talent under the baset and away from the basket.

But, I'd take Wallace first. Why? Defense and intangibles.

The same reason I'd take Pau.

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Blaze_Rocks

Gasol is an injury waiting to happen...And if you havent noticed by now your opinion means jack to me.

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Playmaker0017

Wow. What empirical evidence you've supplied.

Here .. how about this one:

Zach is an injury waiting to happen. Actually Zach is a leader of a drug cult and is sleeping with Osama Bin Laden.

There is about as much substantiated proof of one as there is of the other.


Yeah, I guess your well constructed argument can be summed as:

"I don't like what you said, I can't defend my position and you smell like poopie and I'm telling my mommie on you."

Good, well thought out discussion. I'm proud of you. Now can we graduate first grade?

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Dan

so why didn't you say that to begin with? You're basing your opinion over who's better (zach vs pau) on some assumed condition that is hard to calculate.

Gasol is better than Zach, in the sense that his game is much more complete. Thats not to say that Pau is really a complete player, just that Zach is further from being one. Pau averages over 3 times as many blocks per game too.

This isn't to say that Zach can't become a better player (no one is complete when they start out, cept for a select few..and neither of these guys is of that group). And thats not to say that Pau won't be. Neither one, if one is better than the other, is a clear cut choice over the other.

You'll get some fans who think Pau is better because of the Olympics (which is kind of odd to use as the barometer) and you'll get others who think Zach is better because his ppg and rpg are better.

You'll get some fans who blindly follow their team and think that their player is best of all, and think that anyone who thinks otherwise (or dares to think otherwise) is foolish.

Each has intangibles, and each is young and WILL improve. In some aspects, Pau is ahead (defense) and in some aspects, Zach is ahead (offense). And in some aspects neither is ahead (overall strength, and power).

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ALL unbiased fans would pick Pau? I think that's a stretch. I've watched Pau a fair number of times and followed his game, and I don't find Pau to be hands down better than Zach.

Some people mentioned Pau's D. From what I've seen, it isn't that great. He's kind of soft, and isn't that physical. If they were both $5 mil players, I'd pick Zach, but if they both are max players, I'd rather have Pau since he's probably not going to have legal issues.

Also, with Pau getting maxed out(which he's definitely not worth it), and if Zach thinks he's worth a max(which he's not worth it either) and isn't going to budge, if I was Nash, I'd switch plans and resign SAR and trade Zach.

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Blaze_Rocks

Or it could be that I dont feel like arguing today...But keep thinking everything you type matters..

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Schilly

Why is that, because he has missed 4 games in his career?

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cimalee

Those who dont think so well see this year

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HOWIE

Got proof? Got a link? Come on now, don't you think that number is a little high there Schilly?

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cimalee

Zach brings it every night something Gasol doesnt do , Zach is a better offensive player both not great on d yet , but unbiased with my eyes closed Id pick Zach over Pau

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Playmaker0017

What are you talking about?

You honestly believe this stuff you say?

Great? He's awful. He isn't even good enough on defense to be mentioned as "not great" ... he's "not even good" yet. At this point he's barely watchable.