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I think they're both about equal but I would rather have Zach. It's all about entertainment for me and Zach is just a lot more fun to watch.

And Pau is a Euro and they are usually soft and none have led an NBA team anywhere.

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I don't think i've seen so many annoying emoticons as i've seen in this thread.

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I would take Zach over Gasol without hesitating. Power Forwards are supposed to bang down low and enjoy the physical aspects of the game and Zach does just that. He is a beast in the paint, either when he is trying to score or rebound. You cannot contain Zach on the glass. Pau is a nice player, but I don't think he is as good of a scorer than Zach, and he isn't the fighter on the glass that Zach it. Don't get me wrong, Pau is a very nice Power Forward, but Zach has that drive to be the best in the game. You can hear see it in his eyes when he is on the court. During last season, Zach did have some teammate issues, because he would pout when he came out of hte game and he didn't always cheer for his guys on the bench,like others did. But that has all changed. I rarely see him whining when he comes off the court and he is now the first one off the bench to stand up and cheer when he sees a nice play. For example, he was up laughing and yelling almost every play during the Bobcat exhibition game when Telfair was "woo-ing" everyone. This will only be Zach's second year starting, his defense will come along. His passing and his ability to hit the open man improved each game past the All-Star break last year. What I am trying to say, is that the kid is only going to get better. I laugh every time someone think's Pau plays so much better defense then Zach. His defense is a little better, but nothing to make an arugment over. And that is only because he is taller. To me, Pau is extremely soft. Zach has already shown he can and will abuse Pau down low. Right now, there is only 2 PF's I'd take over Zach for just this year,and that is KG and Duncan, but in a year or 2, Zach is going to be the creme of the crop. Believe That.

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I hate to do this, but I have to agree with what Playmaker0017 is saying.

Gasol has proven time and again how complete his game is. Most recently was the Olympics. Gasol tore it up. He is a smooth defensive player, and his offensive game is on par with, if not better than, Zach's.

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jackiejackal

Hey CIM..
Before you do too much laughing at my comment,read what 4 for snapper said.

That was an excellent post. !

He looked like a million bucks in the Olympics..

He gets better every year,and he is so darn young.
What on earth do you find so funny ??

Zach is a terrific player,but man for man I would pick
Pau. I have followed all his games on the League Pass.

His attitude is terrific,he is more versatile than Zach.
I am seeing some traits in Zach I don't like.

Plus,in all honesty I like a guy with a clean record.

Still laughing???

MemphisX

Neither have midget PFs that don't know how to pass.

Zach's best traits are offense and Pau is a better offensive player than ZBo, although I think they are both on the same tier as NBA players. However, I don't watch enough Portland games to judge ZBo's room for improvement. Pau has not reached his ceiling yet and is one of the top 5 post players in the NBA.

IMO the problem isn't Pau's contract, the problem is your idiot GM extended Ratliff before he extended Randolph. If there was any chance of getting a discount, he blew it. The question is not whether Randolph is better than Pau but is he more valuable to Portland than Ratliff?

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I love how you're speculating as well regarding Zach's ability to play within the team.

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jackiejackal

Playing within a team is Pau all the way.

As good as Zach is..and he is good !!

I am not particularly fond of him as a person/player.

cimalee

well see this year , Didnt Zach drop 31 & 20 on the griz as a bench player . Gasol has never done that

No need for debating we all have different opinions

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"no need for debating"

just insert laughing..

I see..

whatever

Goldmember

Zach is no midget. He's taller than Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, both of whom have led their team to the finals. And Zach knows how to pass, it's not his fault that his teammates stand still when he has the ball. When his teammates cut, he has shown the ability to make the extra pass.

PorterIn2004

I'm totally with you that height isn't necessarily an issue (though I suspect that PFs are taller now, on average, than when Barkley was playing). And it's also true that the rest of the team is often standing around a lot.

That said, it also seems to me that when Zach has the ball down low, we can almost count on one of four main things happening: Zach scores; Zach missing but getting his own rebound and then scores; Zach misses and the other team gets the rebound; or a turnover. Occasionally something else happens: Zach hits an open teamate; another Blazer gets the rebound; there's a foul called and play stops; etc. Really though, it seems to me that it's usually one of the first four. And, all in all, that's fairly impressive as most of the time we're left with Zach shooting .500. That's nothing to sneeze at. Still, how many more times will we have to watch Zach get stripped as he tries to take the ball end to end?

MARIS61

If by "usually" you meant "NEVER!", then I'll agree with you.

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Im not exactly sure what you mean by your statement, but head to head over the course of their careers. Head to head SAR normally outperforms KG. Whether those teams have won or not is not the question here but usually Reef has the better game of the 2.