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10-19-2004, 10:37 PM
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Randolph: "I'm better than Gasol"
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Randolph wants the maximum deal — six years, $86 million like Memphis recently gave Pau Gasol, and says the Blazers’ offer thus far is at $69 million.
“I don’t know if it’s going to get worked out, but I hope so,” Randolph says. “There has to be a fair number there somewhere. All I know is, (the Grizzlies) gave Gasol a maximum deal. I think I’m better than Gasol.”
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Personally I think a $70 million extension would be adequate for Randolph. He isn't better than Gasol, and does not deserve a max extension... especially with SAR on the team (should be able to resign him for around $9 million a year).
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Could it be that the Blazers are keeping Abdur-Rahim as a hedge against losing Randolph, to whom they may not be willing to pay top dollar? Could it be that Blazer brass is still considering Abdur-Rahim as its power forward of the future?
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Even if SAR is the PF of the future... no way the Blazers let Randolph go for squat. If the Blazers give Randolph a huge extension he will still have a positive trade value.
http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=26730
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10-19-2004, 10:45 PM
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Zach is better than Gasol , bbetter inside and out , the numbers dont lie
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10-19-2004, 10:52 PM
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Im wondering what has Gasol done to get the Max , Zach still has alot to prove but hes worth more than Gasol
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10-19-2004, 10:53 PM
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Ehh, actually it is tough to make an argument about that, because if Pau was playing more, he could be getting about 24ppg.
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10-19-2004, 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by <b>Damian Necronamous</b>!
Ehh, actually it is tough to make an argument about that, because if Pau was getting 36-38mpg, he could be getting about 24ppg.
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Pau is a solid player but hes kind of soft just my opinion
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10-19-2004, 11:08 PM
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Pau is better then Zach overall at this point and time. He doesnt play as much and while he has a weaker post game he has a stronger outside game. Pau just killed in the Olympics. No offence to zach but Pau is taller more athletic and he understands how to pass and play defence.
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10-19-2004, 11:18 PM
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I'd rather have Pau than Randolph. Randolph is fairly 1 dimensional. Pau has a complete game.
Granted, it’s a pretty important dimension and there’s the hope that in time he’ll improve in the things he is weak at. But for the time being Randolph is just an interior scorer that doesn’t play defense or get his team mates involved. Pau has earned his max extension. Randolph has not.
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10-19-2004, 11:25 PM
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I agree with both ebott and BlazerFanFoLife. Then, even if you're not inclined to, Nash and Patterson have to consider the off the court stuff. Pau's been DA-like whereas Z-bo has had....incidents. Granted, individually many could be explained away -- who hasn't wanted to punch Ruben.  Still, there's a history there. As for the whole dog-fighting business, let's hope for everyone's sake (including the dogs') that Zach wasn't involved. However, even the greatest of Zach supporters would, I think, have to admit that between Zach and Pau, Zach seems the more likely of the two to be getting into that sort of trouble. In short, Zach's a risk that Pau simply is not.
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10-19-2004, 11:33 PM
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id take Pau over Zach no question
the only spot zach has him is in his willingness to bang down low - which is where Zach seems to get more frequently blocked in
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10-19-2004, 11:46 PM
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The more I think about it, if the Bucks are willing to do some sort of Redd for Randolph trade right now, I'd pull the trigger. The only guys I'd be unlikely to let go in that deal would be SAR (they can't have both our PFs), Miles, Theo, and Telfair. Pretty much anyone else they might want I'd be ready to deal if I were the GM, including picks and cash.
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10-20-2004, 08:04 AM
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Zach is better than Gasol , bbetter inside and out , the numbers dont lie
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The game has TWO sides. It isn't just played on the offensive end.
You have to take a lot into consideration. Pau plays a lot less than Zach, and he also is a FAR superior defensive player both in man-to-man defense and team defense.
I know you love Zach, but it really isn't a contest at this point.
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10-20-2004, 08:08 AM
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NO, you are not better than Pau 
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10-20-2004, 08:08 AM
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If Gasol is so superior, why did Zach always beat him up one on one?
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10-20-2004, 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by <b>CelticPagan</b>!
If Gasol is so superior, why did Zach always beat him up one on one?
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One-on-one matchups rarely are indicative of overall talent.
Reef usually beat Garnett in one-on-one matchups... is he more talented? No. Not even close.
Play.
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10-20-2004, 09:23 AM
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 These opinions are weak...No way is Gasol better than Zach 
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