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This is just ridiculous at this point....WE NEED A DANS SHOOTER and already have a great pair of Small Forwards without SAr in Miles and patterson!

I know Wally has a ugly contarct but we wont get a star Sg anyway so why trade for wally is a solid palyer when healthy!

This lineup would without question make the palyoffs!

Damon/Van Exel
Wally/DA/Frahm
Miles/Patterson
Zach/he plays 40 minutes a game anyhow! im sure we can find someone!
Theo/Pryzbilla/Stiffpania

thast a solid lineup!

bottom line is we will trade sar but i just hope it happens soon.

Who do you think we end up getting for him?

Wally
Kidd
Carter
none of the above.....please add a name.

e_blazer1

Several reasons why Nash hasn't "pulled the trigger":

1. The "gun isn't loaded"... meaning that the deal isn't on the table. Just because there are internet rumors doesn't mean that the T'Wolves want to do the deal. Given their current contract problems with Spree, they may not be thrilled at giving up a viable replacement for him.

2. The Blazers and T'Wolves may not be on the same page as to what players get added into the package to make the numbers match. Kandi or Johnson are the likely candidates, but the T'Wolves may not want to deplete their center position.

3. Nash may not be all that thrilled with Wally and is looking for a better deal. If SAR can showcase this fall and prove that he's still got All-Star credentials, Nash may get Kidd or another player with bigger impact than Wally.

I'm sure that there are other possible reasons as well.

Patience, grasshopper.

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Trader Ed

I totally agree

If it boiled down to Wally, I would rather get Eddie Jones from Miami. EJ can play D

Wally is known to not get along with players, and has injury problems, and does not know the word defense.

I am just not wanting Wally, Kidd, Sprewell, Houston or others right now.... not at all

Give me EJ... he can shoot and play D. I will resign to taking him for Rahim right now

After signing Zach to that poison pill extension, Rahim has to be traded by February now. Dropping his payroll does no good on a bloated team salary.

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Ballscientist

the player in last year contract does not have much trade value.

same as bad contract.

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Trader Ed

Thats not true at all. an expiring contract (which Damon, Rahim, Q and Stepania have) does indeed have value to teams which want to get rid of long term deals. It gives them immediate cap relief at the end of hte year. Possibly putting them in contention for hte FA market or to eliminate possible luxury tax

for the right team it works wonders

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Actually, the opposite is generally true. Teams looking to get under the cap or luxury tax look for expiring contracts. NJ would love to dump Kidd's longterm max contract by taking back an expiring one. It's just a matter of them wanting the best expiring contract in return.

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Regardless of contract issues, Wally is a SF, not a SG. Although he's a great shooter, he's not quick enough to play the SG position...offensively or defensively. We have enough options at the SF position as it is. We do need some quality outside shooting on this team, we just need it to come more from the SG position.

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Interesting theory given that he was an All-Star as a 2G a couple of years ago.

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Trader Ed

Rahim expiring at $14.6 mil

Wally 5 years $55 mil = $9, $10, $11, $12, $13 mil

Eddie Jones 3 years = $13.4 mil, player option $14.6 mil, $15.7 mil




Give me EJ at those prices and term

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e_blazer1

Agreed, but I don't think that Miami can afford to lose EJ from their backcourt without getting another player in addition to SAR. How about packaging Q with him?

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Blazer Freak

I actually think that Miami could afford to do that. They 1 get rid of Ej's pretty bad contract. Also they have two options start Person and actually give Dorrell Wright some time(this kid is the next T-Mac mark my words) or start Damon Jones at the 1 and move Wade to the 2, which is where he played in college. so if they had Wade at the two their lineup would look like this:

D.Jones/Wade/R.Butler/SAR/Shaq

Thats really really really good for an East team.

I think Miami would do that.

BFreak.

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Eddie is 33 and, as Trader Bob laid out, the possessor of one bad contract. He can still play, for sure, but nowhere near $44m over 3 years.

Eddie's not a big upgrade over DA and his contract is simply horrible. I would rather have Wally at two additional years for $11m more than Jones.

I might not go so far as to say that I'd prefer letting SAR walk to taking on Jones, but I'd have to think about it.

Ed O.

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PorterIn2004

This just in: A player's been found that Ed is even less interested in the Blazers attaining than Wally!



Joking aside, I am curious to hear your logic, Ed. Those of us who keep up with such things know you've been (rightfully, to my mind) on something of a soapbox for keeping Wally out of Portland, citing such things as lack of defense, questionable health, suspect team chemistry, and huuuge contract. Eddie seems more attractive to me on each of those fronts. Sure he's a better shooter over his career but....

I'd love to hear you expand as you have the time and inclination.

Trader Ed

Much like NVE...

Eddie Jones also has a player option for next year. While there has been rumblings NVE may opt out this summer. I have no idea what EJ may do next summer.

Potentially both are expiring contracts.

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Again, this seems like a fine plan. And, I'm still hoping to hear more about why Wally would be a better option.