ProudBFan

That's a very tender way of putting it, STOMP.

Dude flat-out accused the NBA of racism.

PBF

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Scout226

I nominate all Sheed posts be banished, just like Politcal ones. So who's with me?


Let's all unite Blazer fans. Put down all the past trades and drafts. Our team starts it's title run tonight..

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mediocre man

Listen I hate Sheed as much or more than most do as a person. he does however call Larry Brown "PFP" for a nickname. That's pound for pound for people that don't know the story, as in pund for pound the best coach in the league. That in itself shows he's ok with white people.......at least some of them. I honestly think Sheeds problem is with authority, not race. Larry Brown might just have a way with Sheed that no one else has had since Dean Smith........Funny, Brown is a NC guy too right?

STOMP

Ticket sales/attendance did go down after the trade... how is that not true or misleading? Season ticket sales are not going like hotcakes... is it those facts or me that you have a beef with?

I could have also pointed to the many empty suites at the RG that recent articles have sited. My point was to counter MM's post that people were leaving because of bad guy Rasheed. If that was so, it only would make sense that sales would gone up with the trade for two good guys... right? Rasheed was traded, the team's record remained about the same, and overall there was no noticable bump in paying customers last year or this as many here contended there would be. I think the drop in attendance (last year and this) has much more to do with the team not being as good as they've been for much of the last couple decades. But thats JMO.

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Trader Ed

Not a problem at all MM.... glad you have been a season ticket holder 15 years running.

I agree Zach is in the ball park compared to Andrei and Gasol.... but it just seems the salaries are all of a sudden escalating once again. They probably should not be above Sheeds numbers... but things change quickly. I think Boozer is getting good money as well, if I remember right.

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jackiejackal

Anyone questioning if we are glad he is gone is just baiting.

I am estatic he is gone,regardless of the direction this team takes.
I said that from the beginning.

STOMP

Cool beans we're on the same page... btw, there are players I dislike/hate for various reasons too. Thats probably just part of being passionate about the game. Mostly though, I hate to lose.

STOMP

ProudBFan

Jennifer / Nakomis, is that you???

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STOMP

nope... I picked that expression up from an Australian girl named Jennifer though.

STOMP

Dan

because the implied connection is Rasheed Wallace. The increase of season ticket sales has gone up. It's not a race, a marathon.
you honestly think thats because Sheed was traded? I mean, seriously?

nope. It's not as simple as that (on both sides actually). He was a big part of the problem (to a fair # of fans). His leaving isn't all the sudden going to make them giddy to jump back on.

It's like the old saying. Trust takes years to build, and a second to destory.

that's a tad missleading. They had traded for Miles, and won (I think?) 5 of 6 or 7. So thats why his #'s were considered as good as the end #'s.

I'd just counter that with how the team , in the last 41 games (35 w/out Sheed) was 7 games above .500..

I dont think those people were right when they said that. That doesn't really change anything tho.
I think that had something to do with it, but one of the reasons they weren't playing as good was because of Sheed's play. Thats not necessarily fair to dump it on him like some people do, but he was (fairly or not) labled the "key guy" on the team.

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Ed O

For a guy who uses "misleading" as a counter to almost every point you disagree with (/hyperbole) I gotta call shenanigans here.

The team DID go 24-17 in the second half of the season. But they went 7-1 with Rasheed to start the second half and 17-16 after trading him.

The team was clearly worse after trading Rasheed.

Ed O.

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Dan

d'oh!

so before the McInnis trade the team was sub .500

then for 8 games they were right at .500

then after that, they were .500

so I guess the team wasn't actually that much better with sheed than without.

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Scout226

Based on W/L, the team was not clearly worse after the trade..

With Sheed: 24-25 = .490

After the trade: 17-16 = .515

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Ed O

Portland was almost 100% healthy at the end of the year, and Derek Anderson, in particular, was playing. At the beginning of the year, especially after the Blazers dumped Bonzi, the Blazers were reduced to using Jeff freakin' McInnis at the 2.

Look at the records of the team after the Miles trade and after the Rasheed trade and tell me the team wasn't clearly worse after trading Wallace.

Ed O.