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Old 11-02-2004, 08:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OT: Champ Sheed is leading his Pistons to victory on ring night!

Why did we trade him again? Please remind me. Somehow, SAR + Theo don't quite seem worth it.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So we can give Randolph the max

resigning the more talented Sheed at $5 mil less was too much to ask for
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So we can give Randolph the max

resigning the more talented Sheed at $5 mil less was too much to ask for


Is that why? Here this whole time I thought it was because the Blazers were losing huge amounts of money from sponsors and season ticket holders pulling out because Sheed was such a jerk. And that he represented this city in such a horrible light. And that the organization was constantly embarrassed by his"both teams played hard", and "as long as someone CTC type interviews. It's a shame too because tallent wise Sheed is far better than Randolph, just a bigger A-hole.

Honestly the Blazers could give a crap what you think. And that's not a bad thing. You probably don't support them financialy other than a few times a year.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Good Sheed: Bought championship belts for each player, with each having a plate with their name on the belt.

Bad Sheed: When accepting his ring from David Stern, he just walked by with a stone look on his face, without acknowledging Stern at all.
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Honestly the Blazers could give a crap what you think. And that's not a bad thing. You probably don't support them financialy other than a few times a year.
Your barking up the wrong tree here MM.... I was a season ticket holder for over 10 years. How about you? Although the Blazers realistically probably do not care what I think. I support them fully.

Zach is way overpaid IMHO. Sheed is a much better value at $9 mil. But that does nto mean I want him back on the team. Outside of his talent on the court, I do not miss Sheed and his antics one bit.
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Old 11-03-2004, 06:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Is that why? Here this whole time I thought it was because the Blazers were losing huge amounts of money from sponsors and season ticket holders pulling out because Sheed was such a jerk.
Nice theory. Ticket sales fell off after he was traded though, and they haven't been exactly hotcakes so far this year.

As much as some fans seem to enjoy grousing over PR concerns, I think winning and the perception of the club possibly making a championship run is a much bigger factor in generating fan interest. With Sabas and Pippen faded and gone, Portland's championship window had essencially closed with or without Sheed. IMO they were bound to have some tail off in both wins and sales because of this. Just from the standpoint of really enjoying seeing the Blazers win games, I wish we could have seen some more games with the post Miles trade lineup with Wallace... that was a potent mix IMO.

btw, check out the belts Sheed bought his teammates in the pic I linked... funny stuff

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Uh, oh.. Here we go again.. Opening day, and it's already starting.
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Good Sheed: Bought championship belts for each player, with each having a plate with their name on the belt.

Bad Sheed: When accepting his ring from David Stern, he just walked by with a stone look on his face, without acknowledging Stern at all.
I LMAO when I saw him do that. patted the trophy, took the ring, walked right by the three white guys standing there to shake his hand. Classic Rasheed.

when he decides he doesn't like somebody, there's not a damned thing on the planet that'll make him pretend he does, even for a championship ceremony.

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Old 11-03-2004, 08:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
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We traded Sheed because his relationship with team management had deteriorated to the point where he was not going to resign with the Blazers. Basically, we had to trade Sheed. Personally, I love the guy's game! He is definitely an a-hole though.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Your barking up the wrong tree here MM.... I was a season ticket holder for over 10 years. How about you? Although the Blazers realistically probably do not care what I think. I support them fully.

Zach is way overpaid IMHO. Sheed is a much better value at $9 mil. But that does nto mean I want him back on the team. Outside of his talent on the court, I do not miss Sheed and his antics one bit.


Fair enough Trader Bob. I shouldn't have said that. I've been a season ticket holder for the past 15 years FYI. I don't think Zach was over paid though. I mean if Kirilenko and Gasol got the max Zach should too. His basketball numbers are better.


And as for Stomps comments I think it was more the fact that sponsors were backing out because of Sheed
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Re: OT: Champ Sheed is leading his Pistons to victory on ring night!

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Why did we trade him again? Please remind me. Somehow, SAR + Theo don't quite seem worth it.
What it all boiled down to, IMO, was that Sheed had just grown tired of being a Blazer. His antics on and off the court - and his slacker attitude - cast a dark cloud over the franchise, and he wasn't willing to change it. He didn't fit the direction the new regime wanted to take the franchise. It was time for him to move on.

And maybe it's time for us to move on, too. Sheed may have put Detroit over the top, but he was never going to put us over the top. He's gone. Get over it.

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"when [Wallace] decides he doesn't like somebody, there's not a damned thing on the planet that'll make him pretend he does . . .
Ever notice how most of the guys he doesn't like are white?

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Funny is one word. Tacky and tasteless are a couple of others.
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Nice theory. Ticket sales fell off after he was traded though, and they haven't been exactly hotcakes so far this year.
actually, both statements are missleading and not true.

for starters, the ticket sales didn't fall off greatly after he was traded. And they have gone up for this year. Whether or not they'd be "hot cakes" isn't exactly the level we should be comparing them too.

Rasheed was one of the problems with the Blazers, in many fans minds. His trade wasn't all the sudden going to improve the # of people buying seats, nor going to games. And the # of fans who were going to games this year, weren't going to all the sudden increase with him gone, nor probably with him here.

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I thought the belts were pretty cool. (uh oh, i wanted sheed gone, but I still like sheed...what the hell?? 8) )
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Ever notice how most of the guys he doesn't like