SheedSoNasty

Let's not jump the gun here, guys and gals. I hear people say that Darius playing decent for a MONTH isn't enough to warrant him a solid role on the Blazers... and I'm also hearing that NVE shouldn't be extended because it's only been 3 games. Now, how long should one wait before making critical basketball decisions? Before we get ahead of ourselves, I think it would be wise to see how the next 6-7 weeks play out before we can see if Zach and SAR actually work well together. We've only played GS, the Clips and Toronto... 3 games against below average teams doesn't seem enough for me to defend either SAR or Miles.

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Terrible

We may never know how good Zach, Outlaw, Telfair, Miles either of the Euro guys or Q could or will be. My guess is that all these players have enormous talent but we have a coach that doesn't even know how to open the lid on it.

We need a "TRUE" teaching coach with this young crop.

Trust me Q, Darius, Zach, Telfair "FOR SURE", Outlaw on a team with a coach like Sloan or Carlise become very very good players.


SAR, NVE, Theo and even DA have one thing in common, they all were properly coached at some point in their careers before getting here.

Our entire youth movement may be lost if Cheeks can't pass Coaching 101!

To say Miles, Outlaw, Telfair and others are not star material I only ask you to look at Jermaine Oneal. With the Blazers a bench warmer, with the Pacers an All STAR.

Playmaker0017

Ummm ... Reef never had a decent NBA coach. The best he had was Brian Hill ... for a year ... and I think Cheeks is probably a better coach than Hill.

O'Neal is an ESPN all-star. He shoots a terrible percentage. He's an above average defender. He gets a decent number of boards. But, I wouldn't consider him any better or worse than our two current PFs.

But, I get your point ... I just don't see any of those guys, save Telflair, being that special.

Play.

Terrible

Play,

Oneal knows how to work his position and has been allowed to grow into it over the years with the Pacers. His team is also set up to compensate for his lack of range by playing good team ball. They have shooters, role players and help defense. You know team ball, something Cheeks can't figure out. How the hell can Cheeks figure out this team when it changes every 8 minutes to satisfy all the egos?


The point is we have the wrong coach for this team. Cheeks needs a vet team to coach. Basically a team that runs itself.

We need a Carlise, Sloan type of coach.

Playmaker0017

The problem is that there aren't many coaches of that caliber.

I agree that Cheeks isn't a great coach - the problem is who would replace him?

Play.

Terrible

I think this team has alot of the qualities that Chuck Daly had with the Pistons. Telfair is a Isiah in waiting, we have Patterson who is the Rodman effect, Theo and Lambeer are very similar and we have a slew of talent to be trained. Not to mention Zach who is a double double player every game.

Make a big pitch for Daly and if not him how about Pip? Pip knows hoops on both sides of the ball. He knows talent and he's a proven winner. On top of that he's in need of a new challenge!

Reep

Bill was a bad boy, Theo is nice
Theo blocks shots, Bill didn't do much of that
Bill was a solid rebounder, Theo is so-so there
Bill could hit outside shots all day, Theo . . .


I'm just not sure what the similarities are here, other than that they are both under 7-foot centers.

tlong

except Telfair can't shoot.

DrewFix

...yet.

Trader Ed

Isiah shot 42.4% 2FG, 28.8% from 3FG his rookie year..... not exactly stellar, yet he made the hall of fame

http://www.basketballreference.com/p...lkid=THOMAIS01

Give Sebastian a chance

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Ed O

While the word "Reef" doesn't remind me of MY past, it does remind me of most of the recent Portland Blazers off-court troubles.

With that being said, like ABM I don't call SAR "SAR" because I think it's his nickname... I call him SAR because (a) it's distinctive, and (b) it's short.

I use similar reasoning for NVE and KVH.

Ed O.

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ThatBlazerGuy

The word "Reef" reminds me of my present.

Terrible

Both Lambeer and Theo cause offenses to think about going into the paint. On Lambeer's side it was because you'd probably lose teeth. On the Theo side it's because you'll end up padding his block count. Both make players think and both anchor their team.

How in the hell would anyone know if Telfair can shoot better or worse than Isiah at 19? I'd think Telfair was ahead of Isiah at the same age.

Ed O

At age 19, Thomas led the Hoosiers to an NCAA title. I think that it would be pretty easy to look up the stats to see how Thomas shot the ball.

If I had to guess, I'd say Thomas was a better perimeter shooter than Sebastian. We haven't seen a lot of Telfair since he was drafted, but he's been consistently pretty sad from the perimeter.

As for who's farther ahead: I'd say it's tough to argue that Sebastian is more advanced that Thomas, considering how dominant he was in college.

Guess we'll wait and see.

Ed O.

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Terrible

Don't ya think it's possible Ed that Telfair might have a step or two on Isiah as for court vision at the same age? I will concede that Isiah may have shot the ball better but the last thing Portland needs is another shoot first PG.