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Old 02-11-2005, 12:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"John Canzano sticks by his story, 100%"

KATU and KGW have both said that they asked Crapzano to respond to the blazers and ended their stories by both saying "Canzano is sticking to his story"..as tho that is proof that he's telling the truth.

Does anyone actually think that means anything?

what is crapzano supposed to do, go "nah, just kidding folks! I was ****tin you all!"??

of course he's going to stand by what he says, he's not an idiot. it's called playing poker. He's not going to all the sudden go 'woah now, I better back track here!"

No writer will do that. ESPECIALLY when no one in our society seems to care about things like that.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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hell, I know someone who emailed him back and forth, and everytime that idiot would discount what she said, she'd point out, in a direct quote of the CBA, that he was wrong.

He kept retorting with the same old "no, you're wrong" without backing it up.

She would comment that what he implied the blazers were doing would potentially cost them *MILLIONS* of dollars and picks..and he'd just go "nope, you don't undertstand it"..

and then he'd go into the "the readers are smart" sucking up mode.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I am still waiting to hear how the Blazers broke their 25pt pledge in regards to Miles?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller...err...Canzano?
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They really need to send him back to the armpit of America - Fresno, California. I can't believe the Oregonian decided that this moron was the best they could come up with.
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Re: "John Canzano sticks by his story, 100%"

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Originally posted by <b>Hap</b>!of course he's going to stand by what he says, he's not an idiot.

I disagree, Hap. It's both obvious and apparent that CAN-Johno is an "idiot". This much we KNOW!
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I still think Canzano is right. I think the document is real, and I think the Blazers had it drafted up in case Miles sued them. The team had no reason to suspend him without pay. They should have handled it internally. Just sat him down for a few games and when asked why he didn't play Mo should have said team violations.

I just don't know what the big deal is. Why did Canzano think this was a story. It was only written to smear the Blazers even more. I think the team did the right thing with pulling their ads.

Remember we are talking about a union. A strong union at that. There is no way they would have allowed Miles to be fined without grieing it, and they easily would have won on his behalf in front of any arbitraior.

The Blazers tried to keep it hush hush. Although this isn't wrong per say, it doesn't look all that great from them. I would venture to guess that EVERY team in the league has things like this drawn up.
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Corporate Law Offices are paid to

Look at all the possible situations that come up, and have all the appropriate legal documentation available that MIGHT be needed in any given situation. They just don't hire lawyers who sit there for days on end waiting for something to come up. Those lawyers are constantly looking over legal agreements, drafting documents that might be needed in the future for any legal issues, including contingency documents. That doesn't mean everything they draft up is official and going to be signed. If every legal document that was made was goingt to be signed, then what would be the point of negotiation.
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I noticed that there was nothing from Crapzano in the Snoreagonian today. We can only wish he got fired.
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Re: Re: "John Canzano sticks by his story, 100%"

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I disagree, Hap. It's both obvious and apparent that CAN-Johno is an "idiot". This much we KNOW!


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Interesting that, as of right now, you can't find a link to Canzano's original article on Oregonlive.com.



He may be sticking to it... but it doesn't seem like his employers are.



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Old 02-11-2005, 11:13 AM   #11 (permalink)
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here's what his blog says

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The Oregonian's source for the Darius Miles document is Dead, Solid and Perfect. I've said that many times. And the Blazers know it.
this really doesn't really say anything. The blazers know he has a source. Whats this prove? What would them denying it prove?

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Readers and fans are too intelligent to fall for that.
this is almost insulting. You know when someone compliments their "audience", they're just sucking up to them. Colin Cowherd used to do that all the time on the fan.

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Let's see...

Don't let the Blazers brass fool you, the source of the document was not Darius Miles' agent, it came from the Blazers.

Actions speak loudly.
representing something (X) as something it's not (G) is really an honorable thing. It's what people do to trick people into believing something. It's politicians work.

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Miles agent probably liked the idea, and may have even proposed it, but the document was drawn up on a computer at One Center Court, which means the team, at least, seriously considered this one. And might have even been ready to sign.
I guess if we forget that what he's implying they'd do would circumvent the CBA, he has a point.

He's forgetting tho that A: the money is put into escrow until B: the situation is resolved and C: this is how things are done.

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And while it may be everyday practice for NBA teams to consider settlements, (hey, they should think about their options) can you imagine any palatable scenario in which the team ends up secretly kicking Miles' money back to him?
maybe if they had signed the agreement (a big if) they would've made it public, and said "darius has agree'd to donate the money from that game, to Head Start" kind of like they did with Damon Stoudamire.

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One Blazers assistant coach approached me at the home game the other night, grabbed me by the shirt, pulled me aside and thanked The Oregonian for getting the truth to the public.
sure he did john.
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Somebody reminded me of an old saying that fits Crapzano perfectly: "Love uses a telescope; envy uses a microscope."

To that, you could add: "and the press uses a colonoscope."
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What I understand is John got this document from someone who had access to the computer networkat One Center Court.

I wonder if John takes into consideration that most companies like the Blazers used a computerized fax system that sends and receives, then distributes faxes via a Fax Server on the network. It is very simple to look at the receiupt log and see where faxes went to and who they were received from. In addition the server usually keeps the received faxes in a archive, until a scheduled or manual purge is done.

So Translation, the Document may have been on the network at One Center Court, but that doesn't mean it was created there.
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Re: Re: "John Canzano sticks by his story, 100%"

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I disagree, Hap. It's both obvious and apparent that CAN-Johno is an "idiot". This much we KNOW!
Hap, is that you?
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