Dan

it's a fallacy that people use as a reason why we shouldn't get another team here. It's one the Blazers tried to force down our throats years ago.

While there is "things to do", the # of Portlanders who actually DO that (and people in Vancouver, Salem, Eugene, Corvallis, and the coast) is surprisingly small. Portlanders like to think we're an "out-doorsy" group, but we're really not as much of one as we try to project.

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when will the loss of life end?

The world respects the power of our example, not an example of our power.

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Schilly

What about Seattle?

What about Weeknights? It's not like people go camping on weeknights.

Schilly

BTW one thing you can count on, almost as much as the sun coming up, is that tlong will fight the concept of MLB in Portland. I think MLB in Portland would be great for a lot of local companies, especially like companies dealing in sports and sports apparel who's main copmpetitor is now all over the Rose Garden, and Blazers Players. That way they can entertain their sports minded employess witha local franchise that they sponser.

tlong

Seattle's population density is much greater than Portland's.

Schilly

Correct me if I'm wrong but so is Denvers.

sa1177

Seattle has 1.5 million people more then we do so it's a moot point. Camping wasn't the only activity I was referring to.

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Dan

yes it is. Why should we build a stadium out of our pockets, when we already have a bill that passed the state legislator, that means Portlanders don't pay a tax to build a stadium when we DO get a team?

see; tampa bay and how they build the tropicana dome a long time before they were awarded a team (because they were told once you build it, we'll move a team there..and did like 15 years later).

for a year or two, we'll survive. Or as Schilly pointed out, they could start it prior to the team actually playing here.

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A Buddhist walks up to a hot dog vendor and says "Make me one with everything".

when will the loss of life end?

The world respects the power of our example, not an example of our power.

I'd like to say I made this, but I didn't

Schilly

I realize that, but honestly people all over the country golf....You ever look at a map of the number of Golf courses in say Chicago? Everywhere...I live in Prototype Suburbia, almost everyone in my neighborhood comes home mows the lawn and watches the Mariners.

sa1177

We can argue about it being a fallacy all day and never reach agreement. I am not saying it's 100% fact just saying I do think it would have a affect on Portland supporting a MLB team. I want to see another pro sports franchise here as much as the next guy but i am just not sure baseball is feasible at this point.

Frankly I think we would need to build the stadium first then bring in a team.

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sa1177

They watch them on TV..big difference from forking over 25-50$ minimum a night and going down to the stadium.

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Dan

actually, Seattle doesn't have 1.5 million more people. For starters, the city has about 35K more, the metro area is more, but it's also including more area.

As per the "per square mileage", Seattle is also (size wise) about a 3rd smaller (denver's density is atually less than Portlands).

http://www.demographia.com/db-uscity98.htm

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A Buddhist walks up to a hot dog vendor and says "Make me one with everything".

when will the loss of life end?

The world respects the power of our example, not an example of our power.

I'd like to say I made this, but I didn't

Schilly

This looks sooo Right

sa1177

Lol u knew what I meant...metro area = fanbase and Seattle's is much bigger then ours.

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