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11-22-2005, 08:34 PM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
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Sorry, I havn't read the rest of this thread.
Is this for real?
If so... awesome.
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you're not missing much, don't bother reading hte rest of it..
it's true in the sense that a bill was passed and if we get a team it will be enacted and portlanders (cept those who go to the game, and would be paying for tickets/parking/food anyways) wouldnt' eb paying taxes for the stadium.
The money that the players make would be going towards the stadiumt ho, but the money that the team brings in via building the stadium, playing here, selling food/goods/whatever here, and tourism here, would make up for it.
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11-22-2005, 08:40 PM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
Thanks for the info, Hap.
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11-22-2005, 09:13 PM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
yeah its time for portland nfl is said to be interested in putting a team here: MLS, NFL and MLB!
Portland Marlins? Portland Chinook!
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11-22-2005, 10:57 PM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
Well if it means we get a MLB team I'm all for a ceremonial boot to the butt on MM to make it happen faster.
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11-22-2005, 11:01 PM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
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yeah its time for portland nfl is said to be interested in putting a team here: MLS, NFL and MLB!
Portland Marlins? Portland Chinook!
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There already is a team called the Portland Chinook isn't there? The ABL basketball team if I'm correct.....
Anyway....I dont feel like reading past the first page on this thread....but I think it'd be great. I think we need an NL team (can't stand the DH rule) and it would make for a regular rivalry for interleague play with Seattle. I think it would be a brilliant move.
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11-23-2005, 09:29 AM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
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you're not missing much, don't bother reading hte rest of it..
it's true in the sense that a bill was passed and if we get a team it will be enacted and portlanders (cept those who go to the game, and would be paying for tickets/parking/food anyways) wouldnt' eb paying taxes for the stadium.
The money that the players make would be going towards the stadiumt ho, but the money that the team brings in via building the stadium, playing here, selling food/goods/whatever here, and tourism here, would make up for it.
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That bill you refer to might raise about $150 million. Where would the other $350 million or so come from that would be needed to build the stadium?
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11-23-2005, 10:33 AM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
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That bill you refer to might raise about $150 million. Where would the other $350 million or so come from that would be needed to build the stadium?
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So...stadia cost $500 million now, do they?
Yawn. Yet another ridiculous exaggeration from tlong. It wouldn't even cost that much in Canadian dollars.
Pac Bell, considered by most to be the best ballpark in MLB, cost $350 million. PNC Park (Pittsburgh) cost $262 million.
To explain where the money would come from...
Payroll tax, ticket tax, Concession tax, Hotel and car rental tax. The team would pay a yearly lease on the stadium, taxes on companies that directly benefit from the stadium and seat licenses. The estimate is over $300 million can be raised pretty quickly.
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11-23-2005, 10:34 AM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
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That bill you refer to might raise about $150 million. Where would the other $350 million or so come from that would be needed to build the stadium?
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Here is the whole financing plan
Funding (beginning on page 25)
SB5 - $115 million
Ticket Tax - $85 million
Stadium District - $56 million
Concessions/Merchandise Fee - $29 million
Hotel/Vehicle tax reallocation from PGE - $13 million
Team Lease (can be rebated) - $12 million
Charter Seats - $25 million
Tax Increment $10 million
Off Site Improvements - $5 million
Total 350mil, and BTW They are not talking about retractable roof as Portland. Portland would be the 6th Driest MLB City during the course of the baseball season.
April-October
San Diego 1.78"
LA 2.16"
San Fran 3.32"
Phoenix 3.77"
Denver 11.54"
Portland 12.07"
Seattle 13.2"
All other Cities are over 20" of rain during baseball season.
Thanks to Cactus Leaguer at the OBC forums.
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11-23-2005, 10:36 AM
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yeah its time for portland nfl is said to be interested in putting a team here
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Not bloody likely. LA still doesn't have a team. They'll get one first, then we can talk about other places getting a team.
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11-23-2005, 10:42 AM
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guys, he's not going to admit that he's wrong about something. Give it up. He'll argue till he's blue in the face that up is down, and down is up..and then he'll just act like he was "kidding".
it's a boring ploy by tlong.
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Total 350mil, and BTW They are not talking about retractable roof as Portland. Portland would be the 6th Driest MLB City during the course of the baseball season.
April-October
San Diego 1.78"
LA 2.16"
San Fran 3.32"
Phoenix 3.77"
Denver 11.54"
Portland 12.07"
Seattle 13.2"
All other Cities are over 20" of rain during baseball season.
Thanks to Cactus Leaguer at the OBC forums.
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the funny thing is, during the peak of summer (June-Sept) we have like 4 inches of rain. Whats even funnier is the suggestion that we need a roof to make the stadium "multi-use"...
Whats the rose garden and convention centre for then?? How will the "multi-use" aspect of the stadium ever pay for the (min) extra 150 million it'd cost to make?? And notice that stadiums aren't being built for multi-use anymore.
Hey, I know, let's be the first on the block to build a concrete dome!
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11-23-2005, 01:08 PM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
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guys, he's not going to admit that he's wrong about something. Give it up. He'll argue till he's blue in the face that up is down, and down is up..and then he'll just act like he was "kidding".
it's a boring ploy by tlong.
the funny thing is, during the peak of summer (June-Sept) we have like 4 inches of rain. Whats even funnier is the suggestion that we need a roof to make the stadium "multi-use"...
Whats the rose garden and convention centre for then?? How will the "multi-use" aspect of the stadium ever pay for the (min) extra 150 million it'd cost to make?? And notice that stadiums aren't being built for multi-use anymore.
Hey, I know, let's be the first on the block to build a concrete dome!
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You are right. I will not admit I'm wrong, because I'm right. That financing plan has so many holes in it it's ridiculous.
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11-23-2005, 01:09 PM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
Oregon sports authority is supposedly trying really hard to get the marlins to come here.It was on nwcn and a few other news stations.
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11-23-2005, 01:26 PM
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Re: OT:Portland Marlins
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You are right. I will not admit I'm wrong, because I'm right. That financing plan has so many holes in it it's ridiculous.
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Yeah...it's too short!
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11-23-2005, 01:32 PM
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