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**Schilly** · 03-12-2003, 03:41 PM

Good call DMoney...Unfortunately the issues goes back a few months.

**Gym Rat** · 03-12-2003, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Loyalty4Life!

I like the responsibilty of moderating, you are right. But I will stand by that I had no alterior motive of moderating here when I invited you guys here.

I have a question for you, BO. Why would I take the time and money to come up to the Rose Garden with you all if I didn't care for this community? If I was power-driven, I wouldn't care for any of you and I'd would not want to gain your guys' approval. I want to make this community better itself, and I have devoted a good portion of my time here to make it better. But it seems as if my efforts and contributions are going unnoticed, and I am disappointed that all of you are devoted on criticising me like I am an evil dictator. I am anything but that.

Good grief - I am taking the high road and will make only one comment to this post - You misunderstood me, I don't think you are an evil dictator.

**SheedSoNasty** · 03-12-2003, 04:13 PM

You know, from what I've been seeing... this forum is quickly taking over its real life counterpart. The Blazers. Talented, great when focused. But deep down, we're all a bunch of whiners who get caught up in wishy washy bullcrud. Let it go. Focus on hoops for once, I'm done with this thead.

**Schilly** · 03-12-2003, 04:18 PM

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How you like me now ...HUh!

BlayZa · 03-12-2003, 04:19 PM

thru maturity comes the ability to see a situation from other peoples points of view, first u need to get over yourself to listen to whats being said. nobody is saying you dont try etc if you read any of these posts you can see that. what people are taking exception too is not your effort but the way you almost over respect yourself to an unfaltering level where u cant do anything wrong in your eyes.
its mod , not another 3 letter word ending in -od

**Vintage** · 03-12-2003, 04:41 PM

There are several underage mods who do a great job. Devestata is one of the best mods this site has. He is fair beyond belief. IMO, he is one of the top 5 mods on the site. Did I mention he is 15? Who cares how old the mods are as long as they are doing a good job. I know this case was talking about L4L, but it was brought up about minors as mods.

Devestata seems to handle it quite well. More power to ya Deve.

**BEEZ** · 03-12-2003, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Vintage!
There are several underage mods who do a great job. Devestata is one of the best mods this site has. He is fair beyond belief. IMO, he is one of the top 5 mods on the site. Did I mention he is 15? Who cares how old the mods are as long as they are doing a good job. I know this case was talking about L4L, but it was brought up about minors as mods.

Devestata seems to handle it quite well. More power to ya Deve.

Great assesment Vintage, Dev is one of the better mods here

BlayZa · 03-12-2003, 04:54 PM

I think it is often a prevailing correct point that age+maturity are closely linked but saying that its not not an explicit rule in the least. Dev is a great mod from what ive seen and has always been good to chat with. Its just more often than not the link is correct.

**Minstrel** · 03-12-2003, 05:37 PM

Boy...this "community" is one of the quickest to upset I've ever seen. Every so often all these politics issues spring up that I simply don't see on other boards. Add to that the fact that this "community" is also a very interesting and intelligent one and it creates quite a problem, since leaving means going somewhere for lesser discussion quality.

I've never had a problem with L4L's moderating and I think getting angry / upset over duplicate threads being removed, or related threads being merged is silly. It's a legitimate gripe if your opinions are removed, but if you've created two threads to say the same thing, one of them being deleted has not removed your opinion. It's simply reduced the litter.

I also don't have a problem with the concept of a "minor" moderating. People are wise or intemperate in their decisions as individuals, not as age classes. I know thirty- and forty-year olds with very little maturity and sixteen-year olds who are open-minded and laid-back. The very idea of the Internet was that people would be judged based on the quality of their thought, not who they were, since it was an anonymous medium. If L4L had chosen to not reveal his age, you wouldn't even know.

I've disliked quick-trigger moderators who seemed quick to censor or, worse, quick to censor things from a certain fan base. However, L4L is not that type of moderator, nor do I believe he is a corrupt one who would delete things unfavourable to him. I think a few people have a a problem with him and are portraying it as a board revolting in anger. However, it strikes me that it's the same three or four people making all the posts in this thread. Maybe they have a silent majority on their side, but this "community" has never been one to stay silent if they feel something.

Personally, I think that L4L should remain as moderator unless he's shown to have done things that are unbecoming a moderator (as decided by higher-ups, not by a few people who disagreed with a moderator). As far as what I've seen, he's acquitted himself fine.

**HOWIE** · 03-12-2003, 05:53 PM

Okay, I hope that this is going to be resolved soon. The Blazers give us enough to post about without having something like this happening. I don't care who is right or who is wrong, I came to this site because I enjoy each and every one of us. We all have different view on what the Blazers should do, and that is what makes it fun posting here. There is always another side to the story. Hap sez Bonzi Wells, I say Jerry Stackhouse.

Maybe L4L should step down if it is going to cause problems for this Blazer board. I don't have the answer that is going to make everyone here happy. I would be heartbroken if any of you left. As I said when I came here and became a Supporting Member, "I don't want to move again!"

My father once told me that as long as there are two people living on the Earth there will never be any peace. At the time I really didn't understand what he was saying, today it is crystal clear.

People we are all different. You need to take into account that the best way to moderate is to try to see why or what the other person is trying to express. If it is not a derog statement then I don't see the harm in leaving it as it is or where the poster wrote it. Moving it may cause the post to lose value or context. I am not knocking L4L for moving the thread, but maybe he should have let it go unmoved.

You all know me and that I am not very long winded when it comes to posts. So why make HOWIE work so hard people?

I am now going to drive home and watch the Blazer game with my family and some friends. I expect all of you to be here for the post game chatter.

Take what you can from all this and learn from it, and that goes to everyone. I don't want to be back here in 3 months talking about the same thing!

This is over as far as I am concerned. Time to move forward and get ready for the playoffs.

**talman** · 03-12-2003, 05:55 PM

Well said Howie.

**HOWIE** · 03-12-2003, 05:57 PM

Thank you Talman!

See, a short HOWIE post!

4-For-Snapper · 03-12-2003, 06:05 PM

What happened here? I'm gone for a few days, and this is what I come back to? I don't have any problem whatsoever with minors acting as Mods. But I'll be the first to admit, L4L has irritated me on a few occasions when it comes to posting, but overall he has done a decent mod job. IMO, BO and Schilly should remain as Mods, and L4L should politely step down. BO and Schilly have done an oustanding job as moderators, and I feel it would be a travesty to lose them in that capacity. Would that be enough to keep everyone happy?

It also seems just a tad unfair to me that all of these attacks are being made against only one person, when others have made mistakes too. And that person is somebody that I know personally and respect. A lot. I only hope that people can leave all this drama bulls--- alone and just focus on what we're all here to do. Post.

**Gym Rat** · 03-12-2003, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Minstrel!
Boy...this "community" is one of the quickest to upset I've ever seen. Every so often all these politics issues spring up that I simply don't see on other boards. Add to that the fact that this "community" is also a very interesting and intelligent one and it creates quite a problem, since leaving means going somewhere for lesser discussion quality.

I've never had a problem with L4L's moderating and I think getting angry / upset over duplicate threads being removed, or related threads being merged is silly. It's a legitimate gripe if your opinions are removed, but if you've created two threads to say the same thing, one of them being deleted has not removed your opinion. It's simply reduced the litter.

I also don't have a problem with the concept of a "minor" moderating. People are wise or intemperate in their decisions as individuals, not as age classes. I know thirty- and forty-year olds with very little maturity and sixteen-year olds who are open-minded and laid-back. The very idea of the Internet was that people would be judged based on the quality of their thought, not who they were, since it was an anonymous medium. If L4L had chosen to not reveal his age, you wouldn't even know.

I've disliked quick-trigger moderators who seemed quick to censor or, worse, quick to censor things from a certain fan base. However, L4L is not that type of moderator, nor do I believe he

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