Dan

Now, I don't expect that Boston would do this, but what about:

Miles
Ruben
Outlaw
and this years pick (top 3 protected)

for

Pierce + future considersations (2nd rounder?)

Before Boston fans come in here and tear this one to shreds, I don't think it's possible. But it's not a bad trade. They get a decent youngins (Outlaw) and they'd now potentially have 3 1st round picks (or 1 (or 0) if below is met).

See, they might have to give their pick to Atlanta (if not lotto) and they should get the Lakers Pick (if not top 10 lotto)

I think that means Boston doesn't have a guaranteed 1 pick in the 1st round this year. They might have 1 (LA's) if the Lakers aren't top 10. They might have their own if they're lotto bound in addition to LA's (or only their own).

So...there's a chance (if I'm getting this right) that the Celtics could have their own pick (lotto) the lakers pick (late lotto). And maybe trade for Portlands pick..so 3 picks in the lotto. Sure, this ain't the year for lotto picks.

There's also a chance though, that the Hawks get the Celtics pick this year (if the celtics make the playoffs) and the lakers keep their pick this year (top 10). So if thats the case, the Celtics would have 0 1st round picks this year, and might want one, if it's top 3 protected.

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I'd do it in a second.

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I think its a bad, bad trade. Pierce has to be making as much money as those guys so I don’t see how it helps with cap room. Therefore I don’t see how it could lead to future accusations, and without future freeagents there is no point in getting older because Portland wont get anywhere with Pierce alone.

Pierce is already applying the muscle rub on the thick. In a few years Miles and Outlaw would come to Portland and take turns spanking Pierce. I like Randolph and I'm not just saying this because of the Spurs game, but Portland needs another PF/C who can score a little. They need a Camby type player or a Gasol. That may be had in next years draft. I rather bank on that then Pierce being a franchise player in three years.

2k

I think its a bad, bad trade. Pierce has to be making as much money as those guys so I don’t see how it helps with cap room. Therefore I don’t see how it could lead to future accusations, and without near future freeagents there is no point in getting older because Portland wont get anywhere with Pierce alone.

Pierce is already applying the muscle rub on the thick. In a few years Miles and Outlaw would come to Portland and take turns spanking that hine. I like Randolph and I'm not just saying this because of the Spurs game, but Portland needs another PF/C who can score a little. They need a Camby type player or a Gasol. That may be had in the 2006 draft. I rather bank on that then Pierce being a franchise player in three years. Either that or they could trade Patterson to a contender that needs the D and hustle and get a lottery protected 2007 pick and use it as a chip to help move up in the 2007 draft.

Dan

cap room? thats really not as important as people think. The Blazers can basically offer Joel the MLE with his contract, and still have the MLE to offer someone else.
they wouldn't have Pierce alone. they'd have pierce, telfair, webster, joel, zach, and potentially jack, dixon and blake still.
I doubt that Miles would, and if Outlaw is, so what? it'd open up space for Webster, who's already shown more than Outlaw has in 2+ seasons.
Hm, Pierce would make us competitive a lot sooner, and we wouldn't be losing out on any major pieces of our "puzzle". It's doubtful that Miles will ever be much better than he is now (it's not like he's really improved his outside shooting in 5 years) and Outlaw isn't the kind of player you keep over a Paul Pierce trade.

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Blazer Freak

I was trying to get a trade to work on RealGM with Toronto. The main players were:

Toronto:
Mo Pete
Pape Sow
and either Loren Woods or another filler

for

Blazers:
Patterson
Travis
and I tried with Blake, Smith and Ha.

It's hard to work out with Rube's TK, but I think it's a good deal for both sides. Blazers get a low post prospect, and Mo Pete expires this summer or next, and same with almost any filler on TOR.

I think to even it out, the Blazers would need a pick though, because we are getting rid of Outlaw..BTW, try not to flame me, I was bored and just was messing around..

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This is the kind of trade I think we should make if we ultimately decide to nix the old idea of rebuilding young and try to win now....That is giving away a lot of youth in return for an ageing veteran who has probably only a couple of years left in his prime...

Then again Pierce and Randolph would be a solid combination with Pryzbilla up front and a backcourt of Telfair and Martell (and or Morrison) that could be something special....

The thing I don't like it is giving up such a high pick on top of it all, if we give up the Detroit pick instead I'm all for it...

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I don't want Peterson, he would just interfere with the development of Martell....althought he is coming off the bench in Toronto, I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem coming off the bench here and he brings outside shooting...

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Peterson has a short contract, I was thinking he would start in front of Dixon for the year, then this summer him and Martell battle for the 2. Plus he has good height at like 6'7 and like you said he can shoot.

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Dan

giving away a lot of youth? Basically Outlaw is the only real young guy in the mix. Miles has to go, one way or the other, in a major trade involving the Blazers (if they make a trade I mean).

Ruben isn't young and Miles, as much as people like him for what he is, hasn't really improved his game much since he came into the league. Sure, he's shooting better now, but isn't most of his shots from 15 feet and in? He still doesn't have an outside shot worth beans.

And it's not like Pierce is 35, and washed up like Dale Davis.
top 3 protected is probably the only way Boston would do it. Why would they want the #30 pick? They'd be trying to rebuild, and need all the picks they can get, especially considering how they might have 0 picks this off-season.

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I like Pierce a lot and I wouldn't mind giving up the players you suggested...but not that draft pick. Top three protected, we could end up giving away a #4 pick for Pierce? Ouch. Not worth it in my book. That #4 pick could be a stud, every bit as good as Pierce.

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Dan

but the thing is, you'd hope (in theory) that WITH Pierce, the team would not have a good shot at being in the top 4 of the lotto. It's a risk you make, but if needed it could be top 8 protected or something.

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