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01-14-2006, 09:44 PM
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I don't see how he's earned such hatred. I don't think he's as bad as people make him out to be.
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He's intellectually dishonest and takes it upon himself to be some moral arbiter.
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And truth be told, I don't agree with everything he says, but I respect his position, his right to have an opinion and his right to express it.
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I don't think anyone has a problem with him having an opinion. Most just see him as obnoxious, often factually incorrect and invested with a sense of moral superiority.
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01-14-2006, 10:05 PM
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He's intellectually dishonest and takes it upon himself to be some moral arbiter.
I don't think anyone has a problem with him having an opinion. Most just see him as obnoxious, often factually incorrect and invested with a sense of moral superiority.
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And I just don't understand how he's a 'moral aribter.'
How often is he factually incorrect? I do recall the bit about Zach or Darius having their card denied and Zach's check returned, but other than that ... how often is he incorrect?
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01-14-2006, 10:06 PM
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Re: Canzano Responds
I've Email Canzano when I see something I particularly like. I figure you all let him know about the crap. =) There has never been a columnist that most people here have liked... the old guy was good... can anyone even recall his name? (Something with a P) He was pre-Duin.... but he started to loose a bit of touch when he got older. I liked him though. I HATED Duin. He wrote crap about the Blazers when they were pretty well liked. =) Remember Canzano is a columnist... so he gets to have his personal take. Sometimes I think they should separate the reporting and the columns a little more... sometimes it is easy to lose track of which you are reading.
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01-14-2006, 10:13 PM
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I've Email Canzano when I see something I particularly like. I figure you all let him know about the crap. =) There has never been a columnist that most people here have liked... the old guy was good... can anyone even recall his name? (Something with a P) He was pre-Duin.... but he started to loose a bit of touch when he got older. I liked him though. I HATED Duin. He wrote crap about the Blazers when they were pretty well liked. =) Remember Canzano is a columnist... so he gets to have his personal take. Sometimes I think they should separate the reporting and the columns a little more... sometimes it is easy to lose track of which you are reading.
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George Pisarrio, I belive (spelling is off).
Canzano has made me wish that Chuck "Dullpepper" Culpepper was back.
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01-14-2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Hap
George Pisarrio, I belive (spelling is off).
Canzano has made me wish that Chuck "Dullpepper" Culpepper was back.
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George Pasero, I think? Used to write for the Oregon Journal, back before the Borg assimilated it?
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01-14-2006, 11:14 PM
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I also like how he included that Rasheed was not going to to resign. I think that should finally be the end of that whole debate/discussion.
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I fail to see why you would assume that.
He offers no details, no mention of witnesses, whether he was there or was told this by a kid at 7-11....wouldn't be the first lie he told.
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01-15-2006, 12:07 AM
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I fail to see why you would assume that.
He offers no details, no mention of witnesses, whether he was there or was told this by a kid at 7-11....wouldn't be the first lie he told.
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Because he usually takes the anti-Blazers position? Wouldnt the anti-management position be to say that Sheed would have resigned? Why would he LIE to make Blazers management look better?
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01-15-2006, 12:12 AM
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Because he usually takes the anti-Blazers position? Wouldnt the anti-management position be to say that Sheed would have resigned? Why would he LIE to make Blazers management look better?
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He also usually takes the anti-Sheed position. So in this case, he had to choose who to make look bad.
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01-15-2006, 12:14 AM
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Perhaps......but to assume he's lying here without any really CLEAR motivation for it....well....it requires quite the leap of faith. You have to admit.
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01-15-2006, 12:33 AM
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Perhaps......but to assume he's lying here without any really CLEAR motivation for it....well....it requires quite the leap of faith. You have to admit.
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I don't assume he's lying. I assume he doesn't know what he's talking about. He probably wasn't in the meeting, he doesn't actually know what was said. He heard it third-hand, and interpreted what he was told (which may or may not have been true or complete) through the prism of his own viewpoint. It's not reporting.
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01-15-2006, 10:26 AM
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Damn, some of you are flat out relentless. Ease up. Quit busting Canzano's balls. He took the time to answer the questions. What more do you want?
I'm sure most of you believe you could do a better job? Then do it.
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01-15-2006, 10:42 AM
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Damn, some of you are flat out relentless. Ease up. Quit busting Canzano's balls. He took the time to answer the questions. What more do you want?
I'm sure most of you believe you could do a better job? Then do it.
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it's not about us doing a better job, as much as it is someone actually doing a good job in the first place.
So when we complain about Clinton, or Bush, we have to be able to do a better jobs ourselves?
Um...no?
It means that we hold media up to a standard that these guys (Quick, Canzano, the morons at KFXX) aren't even trying to meet.
Sorry if I think our media should actually know what they're talking about and not act like they're writing for a soap-opera type situation. This isn't wrestling we're talking about, where if you ignore it long enough, it 'never happened'.
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01-15-2006, 11:01 AM
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I'm sure most of you believe you could do a better job? Then do it.
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If I could get the job without the journalism major and relevant experience, I think I could do a better job than Canzano.
But it's really not even about that. If your car crashes due to shoddy engineering, are you disallowed from criticizing the engineering unless you can design a better car? That's a fairly absurd contention.
If someone takes on a job professionally, they're judged against everyone in their field, not against anyone off the street.
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01-15-2006, 12:28 PM
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