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02-10-2006, 03:50 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
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Does he play good D? I want us to draft someone that can play D.
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He's no Khryapa, but he plays pretty solid defense. I think his biggest problem is lack of strength. I think he'd get posted up a lot in the NBA for the first year or two, but as he gets stronger, I think he'd be an above average defender. He's also an excellent shotblocker coming off the ball.
I'm no scout, nor have I ever claimed to be...but from the games I've seen, I think he's the best player in this draft.
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02-10-2006, 03:56 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
As much as I love Miles, I would rather draft Andrea to be our starting SF of the future. If we could get a talented big man like Frye for Miles and bad contracts(Theo, Patterson) I think we should go for it.
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02-10-2006, 03:58 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
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Not too many players in the league play that good of defense....
I'd take a Nowitski type player on offense any day of the week...
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Over Adam Morrison?
 Not tryin to start anything.....but it had to be said.
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02-10-2006, 04:30 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
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Over Adam Morrison?
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No, Morrison will be a legend.
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02-10-2006, 05:42 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
Hi guys, i'm italian and i can see Andrea almost every game... he's the real deal of the draft and not because he comes from my country...
Just for precision, he seems skinny but he weights at least 235 lbs right now. Not too skinny as advertised...
He's not a bad rebounder as stats seem to tell, in fact he's really dangerous under offensive boards but he lacks strenght (more than pounds) to take position down low... in NBA there are many trainers able to help him, so it's not a problem from my point of view. Moreover he plays sometimes at 3 position, far from the basket, and his rebounding numers are the consequence...
In difense he's not bad. He always tries to stop his opponents and usually helps his teammates so sometimes he's foul prone. But his footwork is really nice for a 7-foot and in Italy can easily guard even 6-6 or 6-7 guys at SF position...
He has to improve his low-post defense (same strenght problem) because sometimes looks lost trying to guard bigger guys... but he can block many shots (he leads italian 1st division in blocks) and he's not too bad.
He's not a project or simply a prospect, he's a player. With much upside left...
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02-10-2006, 07:33 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
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He's not a project or simply a prospect, he's a player. With much upside left...
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Yea, I notice too many times on other sections of the boards the words "project" "prospect" etc talking of Andrea ...
He's not the Korolev or the Milicic of the situation ... he definitely a player, right now.
That's the point ...
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02-10-2006, 09:25 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
OK, then. Let's keep losing games! (I'm only partially kidding.)
Welcome Italian BBall fans!
After we draft Andrea, I suspect you'll become regulars here?
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02-10-2006, 11:57 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
yeah i saw the video of him blocking that guy wow thats was a veteran back in your face move!
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02-22-2006, 02:10 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
This evening in Euroleague Top16 Andrea started at center against Efes Istanbul scoring 16 points (5-7 from 2, 2-4 from 3), 9 rebounds, 3 steals, 1 block
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02-22-2006, 02:14 PM
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After we draft Andrea, I suspect you'll become regulars here?
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Yea
I'm an huge PHX Suns fan (because of D'Antoni and his "euro-style" of play the game), but obviously I'll follow the team of Andrea too !
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02-22-2006, 03:22 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
9 boards.....thats what I like to see. How many minutes did he get those numbers in?
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02-22-2006, 03:41 PM
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02-22-2006, 04:11 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
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9 boards.....thats what I like to see. How many minutes did he get those numbers in?
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The thing I really like is it seems like he's getting better just about every time out.
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02-22-2006, 04:12 PM
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Re: Bargnani does it again...
My concern about these guys is they are putting up these numbers against mediocre competition at best. Is there really any reason to believe the numbers they are putting up in Europe mean anything more than the numbers JJ Redick is putting up against tough ACC opponents or the numbers Adam Morrison has put up against top 25 teams?
I guess Manu Ginobli and Dirk Nowitzki turned out pretty well, but is this guy truly any better than the 20 or so other busts that have come out of international leagues over the last 5 years?
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