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Old 03-02-2006, 03:17 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Anyway Treviso's coach David Blatt is a moron, I can just repeat this ... how can you bring out the kid when is literally dominating ? and put on the floor "teddy bear" Popovic or Marcus Goree that's having an awful evening ?

bah ...
Come on, dont be so blind. Bargnani was benched at times, because you simply could smell foul trouble for him in the air. Blatt exactly did great yesterday with benching Bargnani at stretches when Benetton had control just to save Bargnani for the end. Yes, he was really dominating and it was pain to see Slokar or bad shape Goree in, but I believe without those short benchings Bargnani would have fouled out much earlier.

Talking about his game it was really amazing. That triple he made to give them biggest lead and dunk in 1st quarter when he was surounded with few Pao players inside were jaw droping stuff. But he needs to focus on defense not to receive those stupid fouls. It limits his game much. On the other hand it wont be problem in NBA as they have 6 fouls limit and anyway he wont play as much time to foul out in his first year (and then supposedly he learns to avoid it).
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Old 03-02-2006, 06:02 AM   #122 (permalink)
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Come on, dont be so blind. Bargnani was benched at times, because you simply could smell foul trouble for him in the air. Blatt exactly did great yesterday with benching Bargnani at stretches when Benetton had control just to save Bargnani for the end. Yes, he was really dominating and it was pain to see Slokar or bad shape Goree in, but I believe without those short benchings Bargnani would have fouled out much earlier.

Talking about his game it was really amazing. That triple he made to give them biggest lead and dunk in 1st quarter when he was surounded with few Pao players inside were jaw droping stuff. But he needs to focus on defense not to receive those stupid fouls. It limits his game much. On the other hand it wont be problem in NBA as they have 6 fouls limit and anyway he wont play as much time to foul out in his first year (and then supposedly he learns to avoid it).
You call them "stupid fouls" while i call them "stupid foul calls"...

His 3rd foul (an offensive) was simply a defensive foul by Batiste... also his 4th and 5th fouls were at least doubtful (he barely touched his opponent and i'm not sure about it)...

I agree with you about the rest of your post.
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Old 03-02-2006, 06:32 AM   #123 (permalink)
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nate doesnt do scouting its all up to the blazer scouts and kevin Pritchard

(wonder who they are and which games they have been going to in europe)

did of you uero guys go to or watch the game did you see or did the mention any nba scouts being there at any games and the teams they work for?
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nate doesnt do scouting its all up to the blazer scouts and kevin Pritchard

(wonder who they are and which games they have been going to in europe)

did of you uero guys go to or watch the game did you see or did the mention any nba scouts being there at any games and the teams they work for?
Yesterday there were a dozen of NBA scouts... i'm almost sure there was the scout of Charlotte Bobcats but i'm not sure about others (however i imagine there were scouts of not so good teams)...
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You call them "stupid fouls" while i call them "stupid foul calls"...

His 3rd foul (an offensive) was simply a defensive foul by Batiste... also his 4th and 5th fouls were at least doubtful (he barely touched his opponent and i'm not sure about it)...
I wasnt talking only about this game. Yes, last 3 fouls were really questionable and refs can be blamed for the calls. But in all 3 situations Bargnani made mistakes. Its Pao, he knows refs are calling "hair" fouls on him, he knows that he usually fouls out, and knowing all that he still chooses to go against Batiste instead of giving a pass for open Popovic in a perfect position (Batiste moved and it was very bad call from refs, but also very bad decision from Bargnani not to pass). Chatzivretas penetration would lead to nowhere, but Bargnani stays close instead of moving back and of course some little contact and refs feel tempted to call foul. Same with Lakovic situation where was little need to stay that close, because it was obvious that Lakovic wont shoot from 3 anymore and will go inside, so there was no need to try stop him outside the paint in that particular situation especially knowing you have 4 fouls. Yes, Lakovic acted the foul, but Bargnani should have been more careful in that situation. All situations even being questionable calls from refs could be easily avoided, but Im sure that it will come with time for Bargnani.
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Thanks for the updates and the insights Euro-fans!

Please keep posting about and discussing Bargnani's games here on the Blazers Board.

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Re: Bargnani does it again...

I was watching the top10 actions of last sunday (italian league), when at the 3rt place I saw the one-hand-slam of Bargnani during TrevisoVsTeramo ... Jeez ! what a sick dunk ! he went up over the Teramo's defenders with his elbow till the rim ...

Toxi, do you have the clip ??
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I was watching the top10 actions of last sunday (italian league), when at the 3rt place I saw the one-hand-slam of Bargnani during TrevisoVsTeramo ... Jeez ! what a sick dunk ! he went up over the Teramo's defenders with his elbow till the rim ...

Toxi, do you have the clip ??
Unfortunately no...

And i miss that highlight... not bad even that dunk yesterday against Panathinaikos!
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so you dont know if any blazer scouts have been watching him?

what other euroleague players would you think could do good in the nba and should be in the draft?
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so you dont know if any blazer scouts have been watching him?

what other euroleague players would you think could do good in the nba and should be in the draft?
The Blazers are very interested in him. Kevin Pritchard has seen him in person a couple times.

Other European players worth a look? Tiago Splitter and Marco Belinelli stand out. Belinelli is a very good scorer for being only 19 years old.
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This evening against Rome (italian league)

29 minutes
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He has a off game and still fills up the stat line. Im glad to see those 11 boards.

How much do you think his stock will skyrocket if he leads his team to the Euro championship.
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He has a off game and still fills up the stat line. Im glad to see those 11 boards.

How much do you think his stock will skyrocket if he leads his team to the Euro championship.
Not at all..the NBA could care less about the Euro championship. It's all about his stats and potential.
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