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It's_GO_Time · 02-24-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlesk123

The so called jailblazers were a great team, playoffs, finals, championship games, but they were troublemakers . . . . . . ..If you want to criticize the team, do it constructively and logically. Not with insults.

Sorry for the insults, but i guess with a basketball. Logic wasn't getting through

So you call the old trailblazers "jailbalzers" and "troublemakers" but then later say if you want to criticize the team, don't do it with insults. Dude, you contradict yourself in your own post. Who has the basketball?

**Scout226** · 02-24-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlesk123

THe way i see it chris basketball,in the true sense of the world. basketball. If winning is more important then building a solid respectable team, then basketball. A fan loves the game, loves to see his team play. We love it when they win, we love them when they lose. We don't abandon then. HYow about during the darnell valentine era and a little before when we were taking draft picks like sam bowie, then clyde drexler, etc When we pick a clyde the glide this year or next you all will act like you were never disrespectful. It happened then and its happening now and it happened before that. The Blazers as any team go through the draft every now and then. Every now and then they have bad years. The so called jailblazers were a great team, playoffs, finals, championship games, but they were troublemakers. It was more important to build a positive role model team than win. I happen to agree with this, but i guess i have dignity and honor, which is basketball. The RG debacle is pretty obvious about the facts. Allen has a terrible deal with the RG, worst in the NBA. He gets no cut of anything, that is terrible. He is asking for his fair share as the other teams do. The fans abondoned him, that part is true. They abandon the rebuilding of a respectable team. basketball If you want to criticize the team, do it constructively and logically. Not with insults. On top of that, they really are building a great young future team, give it time. Don't be so impatient. And for the "true fans" criticize constructively. So far the management has made the best trades available to build a young team. The goal is rebuilding, not winning right now.

Sorry for the insults, but i guess basketball. Logic wasn't getting through

hmm.. another basketball migrating from O-Live?

chris_in_pdx · 02-24-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlesk123

THe way i see it chris basketball,in the true sense of the world. basketball. If winning is more important then building a solid respectable team, then basketball. A fan loves the game, loves to see his team play. We love it when they win, we love them when they lose. We don't abandon then. HYow about during the darnell valentine era and a little before when we were taking draft picks like sam bowie, then clyde drexler, etc When we pick a clyde the glide this year or next you all will act like you were never disrespectful. It happened then and its happening now and it happened before that. The Blazers as any team go through the draft every now and then. Every now and then they have bad years. The so called jailblazers were a great team, playoffs, finals, championship games, but they were troublemakers. It was more important to build a positive role model team than win. I happen to agree with this, but i guess i have dignity and honor, which is basketball. The RG debacle is pretty obvious about the facts. Allen has a terrible deal with the RG, worst in the NBA. He gets no cut of anything, that is terrible. He is asking for his fair share as the other teams do. The fans abondoned him, that part is true. They abandon the rebuilding of a respectable team. basketball If you want to criticize the team, do it constructively and logically. Not with insults. On top of that, they really are building a great young future team, give it time. Don't be so impatient. And for the "true fans" criticize constructively. So far the management has made the best trades available to build a young team. The goal is rebuilding, not winning right now.

Sorry for the insults, but i guess basketball. Logic wasn't getting through

basketball You sure sucked me in. I applaud you.

Now basketball.

bowlesk123 · 02-24-2006, 08:28 PM

Having a strong opinion does not make me a troll. In fact, having a truthful logically opinion as I did makes me the complete opposite. Sorry if I rocked your sad little world. I will not sit back and quietly listen to arrogance and idiocy. I did use teh term jailblazers because it signifies a time period that evry one knows, it was not meant as an insult other than to say that as role models they should not be getting in trouble with the law. I know you can't counter Chris, because your wrong. I accept your apology and gracious acknowledgment of being wrong and I hope you start acting like a fan If you want a logical argument then I will start laying my arguments out in epichireme form, maybe I shoudl use a categorical for you to keep it simple. Or possible the toulmin model so you can have warrants to try and counter. If you need a lay out logic format I can do that for you. Your lazy logic is appalling.

GOD · 02-24-2006, 09:25 PM

Bowl - On this board we debate the topics. We do not insult individuals who post here. Please post within the framework of bbb.net or go find another place to post. There is no problem debating if fans should support or not support the current blazer decisions, but once you hurl insults, you have crossed the site rules. Please read the rules again if you wish to continue posting on here.

bowlesk123 · 02-24-2006, 10:19 PM

I have only used insults after i was insulted, not vice versa, my orignial post resulted in no insults, only facts based up on a logical argument. If you like you can come take my class at OSU, Comm 114 or advanced argumnetation. I retaliated from abuse ad hominems with abusive ad hominems. If the admin has a problem, let the admin discuss it with me, but i have a good feeling the admin are not fools and can plainly see how the argument progressed. I responded in defense of insults and attacks thylo I rest my case

Well, even if you were attacked (which I can't find myself but I might be missing it) you aren't allowed to respond in kind, especially not with increased vigor. We are a turn-the-other-cheek board.

barfo

BlazerCaravan · 02-24-2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlesk123

I have only used insults after i was insulted, not vice versa, my orignial post resulted in no insults, only facts based up on a logical argument. If you like you can come take my class at OSU, Comm 114 or advanced argumnetation. I retaliated from abuse ad hominems with abusive ad hominems. If the admin has a problem, let the admin discuss it with me, but i have a good feeling the admin are not fools and can plainly see how the argument progressed. I responded in defense of insults and attacks thylo I rest my case

Perhaps taking a class on posting in a format other than one long paragraph would be in order. I'm sure there's a tech writing class at OSU you could audit.

It's_GO_Time · 02-24-2006, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlesk123

I have only used insults after i was insulted, not vice versa, my orignial post resulted in no insults, only facts based up on a logical argument. If you like you can come take my class at OSU, Comm 114 or advanced argumnetation. I retaliated from abuse ad hominems with abusive ad hominems. If the admin has a problem, let the admin discuss it with me, but i have a good feeling the admin are not fools and can plainly see how the argument progressed. I responded in defense of insults and attacks thylo I rest my case

Well, even if you were attacked (which I can't find myself but I might be missing it) you aren't allowed to respond in kind, especially not with increased vigor. We are a turn-the-other-cheek board.

barfo

A fine example of OSU student population . . . can I supersize that order. (Sorry other OSU posters)

It's_GO_Time · 02-24-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlesk123

I have only used insults after i was insulted, not vice versa, my orignial post resulted in no insults, only facts based up on a logical argument. If you like you can come take my class at OSU, Comm 114 or advanced argumnetation. I retaliated from abuse ad hominems with abusive ad hominems. If the admin has a problem, let the admin discuss it with me, but i have a good feeling the admin are not fools and can plainly see how the argument progressed. I responded in defense of insults and attacks thylo I rest my case

Well, even if you were attacked (which I can't find myself but I might be missing it) you aren't allowed to respond in kind, especially not with increased vigor. We are a turn-the-other-cheek board.

barfo

What . . . did someone say Cheeks . .. .

bowlesk123 · 02-24-2006, 10:31 PM

I am a professor there Darius and thank you for your ad hominem attack on correlation alone.

I was called a troll. I was told i was arrogant and foolish for stating opinion barfo. Just a few ad hominem attacks that occured after my first post and chris in PDX was a large offender.

**Dan** · 02-24-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlesk123

I have only used insults after i was insulted, not vice versa, my orignial post resulted in no insults, only facts based up on a logical argument. If you like you can come take my class at OSU, Comm 114 or advanced argumnetation. I retaliated from abuse ad hominems with abusive ad hominems. If the admin has a problem, let the admin discuss it with me, but i have a good feeling the admin are not fools and can plainly see how the argument progressed. I responded in defense of insults and attacks thylo I rest my case

Well, even if you were attacked (which I can't find myself but I might be missing it) you aren't allowed to respond in kind, especially not with increased vigor. We are a turn-the-other-cheek board.

barfo

I realize that by not reading this thread I might've missed the reference to where you live andwhat not, I am just wondering..if you teach at OSU (unless you mean Osaka University and not Oregon State Unversity as most of us would assume) why does your IP address suggest you're posting from Japan?

I ain't trying to hate, I just was wondering if Japan had an OSU Branch (I know they have a temple branch. I know someone who goes there).

bowlesk123 · 02-24-2006, 10:52 PM

I am on exchange at kansai gaidai university in Hirakata, Osaka-fu. I have to watch the games on day delay, i have to force a no news delay when a game is on air. I have a great oppurtunity to teach political rhetoric here in Japan.

No worries hap, i appreciate the kind inquiry.

**Dan** · 02-24-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlesk123

I am on exchange at kansai gaidai university in Hirakata, Osaka-fu. I have to watch the games on day delay, i have to force a no news delay when a game is on air. I have a great oppurtunity to teach political rhetoric here in Japan.

No worries hap, i appreciste the kind inquiry.

had my life been different, that's one of the things I would've wanted to do (well, go to OSU and maybe study abroad...hehe, I wanted to study a broad, but I never got to study the brown haired girl enough...BWAHAHA...puns are spectacular!!!!)..

teach political rhetoric? you mean regular politics, right?

bowlesk123 · 02-24-2006, 11:03 PM

I teach the semantics, the propaganda, the argumentative structures and formation of language into coherent easily remembered sentences called, Politics. I am the teacher of speech writers, spin doctors, and all those people that twist your brain through word choice, semantic possibilities, language pacification and propaganda. It's called rhetoric, the art of communication. The way you say something is as important as what you say.

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