ProZach

I competely agree; it's like I posted that... Even the part about your dad taking you to games.. Which was by the way, some of the best memories I have as a kid. From Clyde to Sabonis... 'Sigh'... I don't think this poster came here with bad intentions or to criticize anyone, and if you took it that way you're too sensitive. The vast majority of fans who post here are not the fair-weather kind, and you shouldn't take every piece of constructive criticism like you are. We're in the rebuilding stage, which is right before the kick-*** stage.

It's_GO_Time

Well let me just say what a fine example you are to the university.

And now I finally know how to bond with Hap, just start posting complete nonsense and insult posters . . . I've never seen hap take on such a mild demeanor.

Schilly

Portland fans don't make me sick, but the casual turncoats do. The ones who said clean it up and I'll be back regardless if they win or lose....Thosse are teh ones still not coming back.

Dan

another mod took care of things, and I tried to difuse things a bit.

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bowlesk123

agreed schilly, some of those clean up fans either are fair weather fans or they have been hit with Oregon economy sickness that most of us are feeling. Allen may have extended the Blazers to far in an economy that just can't afford it and now he needs some incentives from the RG like other arenas do, like cuts in everything.

ProudBFan

bowl, I believe you are where you say you are, but I do not for one second believe you are who you say you are. Your demeanor is consistent with other young Asian males who have popped through here in the past - storming in with guns blazing, laying down the law, and hurling insults before taking the time to really get to know anyone here. And your sentence structure reeks of English being a second language for you. But whatever.

The main thing I want to say to you is that pretty much EVERYONE here is an avid Blazers fan. We may approve of this trade or we may hate it. We may applaud the current direction of the team or we may despise it. We may feel Nash, Patterson, and Pritchard are doing a great job or we may want them run out of town on a rail. But whatever the case, all of us have strong feelings about the team. We are all fans.

And fans CAN be embarrassed by the rash of moral/legal/PR incidents that have plagued this team in recent years, yet still be fans. Fans CAN back a few steps away from the team when remaining close to them becomes too painful, yet still be fans. And fans CAN demand changes they want to see happen, yet still be fans. In fact, I believe that the more passionately fans do these things the stronger fans they are.

And because of this, your condemnation here is severely misplaced. It is the "casual" fan that sickens you. We are not casual fans here.

Please take some time and consider these things.

PBF

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bowlesk123

I have considered what you say and if what you say it true, than i was not condemning you and you should not be offended. My post should not offend those who treat the team with respect, during its rebuilding years. But when i showed up here, I read post after post of whining, crying, insults, name calling of everyone from the players to the GM for not winning games. It was ridiculous, it was like no one knew this is how rebuilding works, even more so, it was as if we had been losing for 10 years or more. Our team is young, the GM is building a team of the future, that is rebuilding. It seems logically foolish to attack a team during rebuilding.

Thanks for the compliment, but I am not asian. I am native oregonian mutt with skin that repels rain. I did not hurl insults in my first post, i hurled them when fair weather fans attacked me for being logical and calling them out. I recognize the sentence structure is not academic, because this is a mesage board and a hobby. Besides, internet english is recognizablly different (more abbrev. , more commas, more fragmented sentences, more psuedo terms and so on.). Anyways, if your one of the fans with heart, then you have no worries about my posts. If you feel a little guilty after reading them, then maybe you should rethink your love of the team.

chris_in_pdx

Okay, Laker Lanny, enough with the new troll gimmick. It's getting old.

bowlesk123

Chris is back with more insults. What a great guy.

Foulzilla

Maybe you didn't mean to, but your initial posts (and many since then) have come off extremely aggressive and grating. If you honestly weren't intending that then I think you should rethink your wording.

You also definitely need to rethink your logic. Fans have every right to be upset when a team is bad. They shouldn't stop supporting them, but should be upset. Casual fans don't care enough to be upset. Your anger is misplaced.

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It's_GO_Time

Doh. Then I come in and throw fuel on the fire. Well it looks like it is you who took the high road, on this one and I pulled a "Nash." : )

Zybot

Good Post! BTW, what will become of the Monia fan club?

CatchNRelease

OK, I've let this slide a couple of times this year. But if we're going to pinpoint who the 'turncoats' are by defining them as the fans that quit attending games because of the morons on the team, I'm going to say my piece.

How about SOME kind of backup for this cheap shot? I'm not insulted because this poster has gone to as many, or more games this year and last as I did before the Mr. T and Bonzo show caused me to find other ways to spend my entertainment dollar. So, if your shot is at me, you're way off base.

Beyond that, where is ANY kind of evidence to show that what you say has any merit whatsoever? How many fans said they would be back once the idiots were dumped? Of those, how many of them said they'd be back the minute Wallace was gone?, or Bonzi? How many that said that were waiting until the last Jailblazer was gone, so may have come back last night? How many actually have come back? Of those that did come back, what percentage are they of the ones the said they would, but didn't. How many of these turncoats are there, in comparison to the number of fans that just walked away, never to return, with *no* promise to come back when it was cleaned up?

Fact is, you don't really have any idea of how many of those fans actually did come back. I actually don't remember that many saying they would be back, once the drek was cleaned up. Certainly not enough of them said that to have made a huge difference in the attendance figures. On what do you base your contention that "Thosse are teh ones still not coming back."?

What makes this fan sick is the holier than thou fans that still seem to be holding a grudge against those that were tired of watching offensive idiots represent the team we've loved for 30 years.

I forget who started the thread "I lied", but I'm pretty sure that he/she is really thrilled to know that he/she makes you sick, and you consider them turncoats. (Or maybe they just don't give a rip, being turncoats and all, who knows?)

Go Blazers

ColoradoBlazerFan

Easy with the "I just took a communciations class" jargon. There are more than a few people on this board who have communication classes as well and really it's not that impressive. Your comments didn't upset me or anything, however, the tone of your argument is rather condescending towards the fans that have been watching and supporting this team since as long as the 70's. Supporting a team for that length of time allows for a objective critique here and there; doing so does not impy a "bandwagon" or "whiner" type of fan. I've been a loyal Blazer fan since 77 and have done so while living away from Oregon most of the time; which isn't easy in certain other cities (you can imagine the crap I've taken during the JailBlazer era). As a loyal fan I deserve the right to make comments on the state of the team as do many others. Blame it on the high standards set by previous Blazer coaches and teams, but I expect more out of my "Blazer" team. The city and it's fans deserve it.

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