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Old 02-27-2006, 08:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Agreed Gio, moderation is key. If you eat carrots all day you'll have health issues and your b-ball will suffer. everything should be in moderation.

HAHA talkhard, of course i was over exaggerating. I just was pointing out that Oregon is mostly pro-pot. it even had to have the gov't force it to make it illegal in the 70's. It's always been a pro pot state. That was all I meant.
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Old 02-27-2006, 08:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think you are forgetting the one main thing here, and that is pto is illegal. I mean that's it period. The league doesn't want them doing it, parents don't want them doing it, fans with any sense shouldn't want them doing it, so they shouldn't. IT'S ILLEGAL. Please don't give me the speach about jay walking either. Pot is an illegal substance that harms your body and others arounf you potentially if you're wasted. It alters your thinkinh, and that's not something people should do.
Not in Colorado, having under 1 ounce is legal. Atleast that was in an article posted on EBB Earlier this year.
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Old 02-27-2006, 08:55 AM   #19 (permalink)
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So why do we drink alcohol mediocre man? Your logic is ridiculous. One drug that causes a large number of deaths, has worse health effects is alcohol and you preach about pot being bad. I won't preach about the law, because marijuana is legal in one state and it will grow. The prohibition can't last forever on a drug that has less negative effects than alcohol.

I think they should play 100 percent too, but check the data i cited. If they smoke the day before it should be ok for game, they will be 100 percent.
My logic isn't rediculous. I never said alcohol is better for you than pot. I simply said pot is illegal period. If the league doesn't want their players smoking it then they shouldn't. If your employer...that's going out on a limb since you are a pot head...gives you a drug test 29 days after you smoked it then it will show up in your system. How is that good for athletes? How is that good for kids to look up to these athletes and say " if they do it it must be ok." Don't get me wrong, I have my vices, those at Blazer games that have seen me with my super nacho double cheese and a large fanta will agree with that, but nacho cheese is not an illegal substance to my knowledge.
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re: testosterone lowering: the source i was referred to was NORML, not necessarily the most unbiased source, and all it claims is that some guys's study refutes earlier studies, so which study is correct?

would you deny that it makes people less aggressive, no matter what the mechanism?
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Pot is legal in Alaska and under an ounce is only a violation now in 8 states. so it's not completely illegal. your right its not ridiculous, but it was over stepping i think. It's illegal for my job, so I don't worry. . . benefits of getting a master's, you work for yourswlf hehe. Regardles though i agree kids should not do any drugs, candy, or caffine, it all stunts growth. But they will try it some time, unless your a good parent. My parents kept me from it, until i was 21 and made my own decision. They were very good parents and so can you be. plus they worked all the time and after school it was just me and my friends from 13 years old to 18 and i still said no to the pressure, because of good parenting.

Norml is a FDA approved site. It gets all it facts from them, it is biased, but not untrue.

i would deny it makes people less aggresive. I would calim it makes people more rational, which leads to less aggression, but its not physical, but mental. Physically you are equally aggresive and can turn it on at any time.
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Pot is legal in Alaska and under an ounce is only a violation now in 8 states. so it's not completely illegal. your right its not ridiculous, but it was over stepping i think. It's illegal for my job, so I don't worry. . . benefits of getting a master's, you work for yourswlf hehe. Regardles though i agree kids should not do any drugs, candy, or caffine, it all stunts growth. But they will try it some time, unless your a good parent. My parents kept me from it, until i was 21 and made my own decision. They were very good parents and so can you be. plus they worked all the time and after school it was just me and my friends from 13 years old to 18 and i still said no to the pressure, because of good parenting.

Norml is a FDA approved site. It gets all it facts from them, it is biased, but not untrue.

i would deny it makes people less aggresive. I would calim it makes people more rational, which leads to less aggression, but its not physical, but mental. Physically you are equally aggresive and can turn it on at any time.


Yet you're a pothead now. I'm not sure if that equates to having good parenting.
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What makes you think I am a pothead?
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I care, and how dare you not care. Pot, unlike alcohol is an ILLEGAL drug that has been proved to decrease brain cells, and my children think NBA players are cool. The last thing I need is for my kids to try pot because their favorite player smokes it.

And please don't preach to me about parenting skills because no matter how hard you try you can't be with your children 24 hours a day. There is a lot of pressure from their friends to fit in, so yes....I CARE
Instill some respect, morals, and common sense in your kids for god's sake! They are not mindless idiots, dont have them think they can idolize someone like an NBA player and hold them up on a pedastal as a perfect human being. You're in for a treat if you allow that kind of crap. You shouldnt have to be with your kids 24/hours a day to mold them into a good kid, you just need to be effective when you are with them.

You pot naysayers are SO hypocritical and blinded. Steroids and other "enhancements" run rampant in Baseball, Football, and most likely Basketball..... the majority of society turns a blind eye..... Alcohol and drunk driving is a HUGE problem in America, yet it's completely legal to go out and get blitzed. When is the last time you heard anyone get pulled over and sent to detox for being high?

Just because Alcohol is legal doesnt make it ANY better than pot, or make pot any worse than alcohol. They are both fine in moderation as ANY substance (caffiene, etc, etc). And Pot isnt illegal because it's addictive (see above links in previous post) or deadly (why would they legalize medicinal use then?)...


Hell, with all the death and disease that goes along with cigarettes, you'd think they'd ban that, but no, there's WAY to much money in it....

Get your head out of the clouds.....and look a little deeper at the real issues. You're kids will thank you.

ps. i dont smoke pot, cigarettes. But i do love me a good microbrew =)
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Instill some respect, morals, and common sense in your kids for god's sake! They are not mindless idiots, dont have them think they can idolize someone like an NBA player and hold them up on a pedastal as a perfect human being. You're in for a treat if you allow that kind of crap. You shouldnt have to be with your kids 24/hours a day to mold them into a good kid, you just need to be effective when you are with them.

You pot naysayers are SO hypocritical and blinded. Steroids and other "enhancements" run rampant in Baseball, Football, and most likely Basketball..... the majority of society turns a blind eye..... Alcohol and drunk driving is a HUGE problem in America, yet it's completely legal to go out and get blitzed. When is the last time you heard anyone get pulled over and sent to detox for being high?

Just because Alcohol is legal doesnt make it ANY better than pot, or make pot any worse than alcohol. They are both fine in moderation as ANY substance (caffiene, etc, etc). And Pot isnt illegal because it's addictive (see above links in previous post) or deadly (why would they legalize medicinal use then?)...


Hell, with all the death and disease that goes along with cigarettes, you'd think they'd ban that, but no, there's WAY to much money in it....

Get your head out of the clouds.....and look a little deeper at the real issues. You're kids will thank you.

ps. i dont smoke pot, cigarettes. But i do love me a good microbrew =)
I'm currious to know when I said any of the other things were acceptable to do. Thinking your children won't idolize players making millions of dollars and living the life of luxury because they happen to be tall is crazy. My children know that hard work is important because I have taught them that, they also know that making it to the major leagues in anything is nearly impossible. However that doesn't stop them from pretending they are their favorite player when we are playing sports. It's not like they yell out "and dad for 3" when they are taking a shot in our driveway. It's usually their favorite player.
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Re: Who really cares if NBA players smoke Pot?

Again Mediocre man - WHY DID YOU INSULT ME AND CALL ME A POTHEAD? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I AM A POTHEAD?
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......If they smoke the day before it should be ok for game, they will be 100 percent.
See, this is one of the biggest problems with your point. There are NO days off in the NBA. These guys are practicing on days off - and trying to learn how to play better, new plays, new skills, etc. Can't do it if they're high!
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I'm currious to know when I said any of the other things were acceptable to do. Thinking your children won't idolize players making millions of dollars and living the life of luxury because they happen to be tall is crazy. My children know that hard work is important because I have taught them that, they also know that making it to the major leagues in anything is nearly impossible. However that doesn't stop them from pretending they are their favorite player when we are playing sports. It's not like they yell out "and dad for 3" when they are taking a shot in our driveway. It's usually their favorite player.


sorry i didnt mean to come across as attacking YOU directly. I was merely using your post as the basis for my post... Please dont take that as a personal attack.
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If they are practicing then they have to smoke after practice.
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I don't care if adults smoke pot on their own time. That includes basketball players. The legal and moral hypocrisy between alcohol and pot is almost as mind numbing as the drugs themselves. If pot were treated and sold like alcohol, the "link" between pot and other illegal and tragically harmful drugs could be broken. I believe that when you teach kids that pot is as bad as crack, then they discover pot isn't bad, you're really setting some kids up for a hard time. A little reality would help keep educators and policy makers from losing all credibility on the subject.

It's a bummer when people let either drug take over their lives. Although I don't believe pot is addictive in the chemical sense, or the way alcohol is, some people do become habitual users. It's easy for kids to fall into that.

Yes, pot, unlike alcohol, makes people less aggressive. People often bring up driving under the influence. I'll take my chances with a pot smoker over a drunk any day (but only if I have to).

I take exception to the often cited fact that the same amount of pot has more 'tar' or whatever than a filtered cigarette. So what? No one smokes 40 marijuana cigarettes a day, as many tobacco users do. This is Oregon. We pioneered potent pot. A couple of little bong hits should suffice.

And that study about pot making men grow breasts is pure, debunked, BS.

Just thought I'd chime in.

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