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**Dan** · 02-27-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinBlazerFan

No, why Japan? I taught in Italy, I am italian and wanted to learn my families language. I teach here in Oregon now, I am just a lowly math teacher, the ones ever kid despises.

Close family sa, italians are like that. Mia familia la amora. I still suck at italian haha

well, either you're lying or you IP adderss is lying, because for strange reason, it's the exact same as bowlesk123, who's also a 'teacher' in Japan.

Redbeard · 02-27-2006, 11:34 AM

There are so many different angles to present this issue, but IMO it all comes down to your own lifes choices. I think everyone needs to take to heart their own responsibility to themselves and the people around them. All drugs have a profound effect on the way our bodies work and if it inhibits our own resposibilities than we shouldn't do it. However, if you know your body and can handle the effects and still do what you need to do, then I have no problem with it unless you make it affect my life. In that sense, I feel pot is the least invasive drug in peoples daily lives. If it were legal, we would have the same second hand smoke issues as cigarettes. Pot doesn't generally cause people to steal, vandalize, nor be abusive or aggressive.

I am an Oregon native and agree that there is probably a majority that use or have tried pot in their lifetime. To be honest, I have one friend that has never tried anything past caffine, which he drank a lot of, and although he isn't comfortable in all party situations I have deep respect for making that decision for his life. I have smoked pot during my life and have had battles with it, but I could always put it down if I needed to.

When I was in college I was smoking and doing decent in my studies, but by no means was a standout and rarely received any admiration from my peers. After an evening of drinking I got pulled over and charged with a DUII. Funny think is that if I had been smoking that night, I would have stopped drinking much earlier and probably would have gone home, but I digress. After making my way home from the Jail, I quit. Cold turkey. This was one month into the term and I noticed that for the next four months of the school year all my electronics studies became completely clear. Everything was a breeze and I almost aced every exam I had. Other students began asking me for help and I realized that pot had really inhibited my ability to comprehend.

I realized that during this part of my life, pot and alcohol were not needed. Although I still respect the effects they have on the body and understand more of where their place is in our lives. I have no problem with other people doing it as long as they maintain a healthy and mentally fullfilling lifestyle. Sometimes I wish I had never tried it, but I am also glad that I did because it made me learn things about myself. I agree that parents should take a very active role in talking to their kids about drugs and be very clear about their own experiences, but by no means do I think parents should build a steel cage around their kids and try and keep them from reality. Kids just need to be informed enough to make the best decisions for their own lifes.

God, I could go on and on.

As far as professional sports goes, I don't think it is the best choice for a player to use pot. Their bodies are their lively hood and they need to be the best they can be. They are also making a ton of money off of people come to see them and therefore they need to perform at their peak.

But in the end, it is all a matter of choice. A choice that should be there for one to make.

Life is tough and we all need a crutch sometimes, but noone should accept that crutch for life.

**Scout226** · 02-27-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinBlazerFan

I have one child, I am married, 3 years now. I am only 30 though. Is that too young.

My children don't drive! They certainly don't smoke. And as the great men of the Boston Tea Party said, (paraphrasing) "sometimes rules are meant to be broken". If you don't stand up against unfair rules, then the law becomes a cgae that ensnares us all. First they come for the cigarette smokers, and i said nothing. Then they came for the alcohol drinkers and i said nothing. Then they came for the caffine drinkers, and i said nothing. Then they came for the the pot smokers and me, and there was no one left to say anything. I teach my kids to stand up for what they believe in, yes. I do not teach them to do any kind of drugs, even caffine. They choose to have caffine in moderation. They stand up for what they believe in and when they get old enough I hope they can make an educated decision for themselves whether or not to try pot.

Wow.. I am always amazed at the passion for wanting to smoke pot when these threads pop up..

So, from what I gather:
- you are the perfect parent
- keeping kids away from caffine as much as possible
- Don't drink alcohol because it's to dangerous(that's actually funny)
- and the only no-no you do is a little pot smoking every once in a while

Does that sum it up? I would guess you don't even speed on the freeway. So, you teach your kids to stand up for what they believe in. That's great. WHat are you doing to stand up for right to smoke pot legally? Shouldn't you teach your kids to stand up for what they believe in, all the while living their life legally?

I'll stop now, because I trully believe this is a trolling thread.. I'm amazed it hasn't be moved..

Oh, I just have to comment on your ideas for NBA players smoking pot.. "smoke after practice".. ha ha. Is there a timeframe you think should be put in place where NBA players can smoke pot before a game? Like maybe they should stop smoking 18 hrs before the game?

**sa1177** · 02-27-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Redbeard

There are so many different angles to present this issue, but IMO it all comes down to your own lifes choices. I think everyone needs to take to heart their own responsibility to themselves and the people around them. All drugs have a profound effect on the way our bodies work and if it inhibits our own resposibilities than we shouldn't do it. However, if you know your body and can handle the effects and still do what you need to do, then I have no problem with it unless you make it affect my life. In that sense, I feel pot is the least invasive drug in peoples daily lives. If it were legal, we would have the same second hand smoke issues as cigarettes. Pot doesn't generally cause people to steal, vandalize, nor be abusive or aggressive.

I am an Oregon native and agree that there is probably a majority that use or have tried pot in their lifetime. To be honest, I have one friend that has never tried anything past caffine, which he drank a lot of, and although he isn't comfortable in all party situations I have deep respect for making that decision for his life. I have smoked pot during my life and have had battles with it, but I could always put it down if I needed to.

When I was in college I was smoking and doing decent in my studies, but by no means was a standout and rarely received any admiration from my peers. After an evening of drinking I got pulled over and charged with a DUII. Funny think is that if I had been smoking that night, I would have stopped drinking much earlier and probably would have gone home, but I digress. After making my way home from the Jail, I quit. Cold turkey. This was one month into the term and I noticed that for the next four months of the school year all my electronics studies became completely clear. Everything was a breeze and I almost aced every exam I had. Other students began asking me for help and I realized that pot had really inhibited my ability to comprehend.

I realized that during this part of my life, pot and alcohol were not needed. Although I still respect the effects they have on the body and understand more of where their place is in our lives. I have no problem with other people doing it as long as they maintain a healthy and mentally fullfilling lifestyle. Sometimes I wish I had never tried it, but I am also glad that I did because it made me learn things about myself. I agree that parents should take a very active role in talking to their kids about drugs and be very clear about their own experiences, but by no means do I think parents should build a steel cage around their kids and try and keep them from reality. Kids just need to be informed enough to make the best decisions for their own lifes.

God, I could go on and on.

As far as professional sports goes, I don't think it is the best choice for a player to use pot. Their bodies are their lively hood and they need to be the best they can be. They are also making a ton of money off of people come to see them and therefore they need to perform at their peak.

But in the end, it is all a matter of choice. A choice that should be there for one to make.

Life is tough and we all need a crutch sometimes, but noone should accept that crutch for life.

Wow my expierience with alocohol and drugs is eerily similiar...so much so it kinda scares me.

tradetheo · 02-27-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mediocre man

I care, and how dare you not care. Pot, unlike alcohol is an ILLEGAL drug that has been proved to decrease brain cells, and my children think NBA players are cool. The last thing I need is for my kids to try pot because their favorite player smokes it.

And please don't preach to me about parenting skills because no matter how hard you try you can't be with your children 24 hours a day. There is a lot of pressure from their friends to fit in, so yes....I CARE

so what if it is illegal. just because the government tells you to jump doesn't mean you have to say how high sir. It irritates me when people who have never even tried it come down on it and give it a bad name. do you ever hear of people getting high and killing anybody? no. I drive stoned all the time, and have never had an accident or ticket. but when someone gets drunk and drives, there is a very high chance someone will get hurt or killed. why do you think there is a madd, mothers against drunk driving, not mothers against stoned driving. so please, keep your uninformed opinions to yourself and quit worrying so much about your kids. they wll do what they want no matter how big a worrywort you are about drugs. that is what friends do to them. so maybe you should spend a little more time watching them and their friends and less time coming down on people who smoke weed.

**Scout226** · 02-27-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hap

well, either you're lying or you IP adderss is lying, because for strange reason, it's the exact same as bowlesk123, who's also a 'teacher' in Japan.

Ooops.. I guess being a math teacher you weren't required to take any computer classes..

**sa1177** · 02-27-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tradetheo

so what if it is illegal. just because the government tells you to jump doesn't mean you have to say how high sir. It irritates me when people who have never even tried it come down on it and give it a bad name. do you ever hear of people getting high and killing anybody? no. I drive stoned all the time, and have never had an accident or ticket. but when someone gets drunk and drives, there is a very high chance someone will get hurt or killed. why do you think there is a madd, mothers against drunk driving, not mothers against stoned driving. so please, keep your uninformed opinions to yourself and quit worrying so much about your kids. they wll do what they want no matter how big a worrywort you are about drugs. that is what friends do to them. so maybe you should spend a little more time watching them and their friends and less time coming down on people who smoke weed.

interesting...I used to drive stoned quite a bit as well back in college. Although you may not think it affects your driving it really probably does. It's you decision to drive stone or not stoned but assure eventually you will realize it affects your reaction time and ability to make quick decisions on the road. I almost learned this the hard way after almost having a near accident.

I won't be a hypocrite and tell you no to do it since I am guilty of the transgression in the past but I will warn you to be careful and consider that it may affect your driving more then you think.

tradetheo · 02-27-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sa1177

interesting...I used to drive stoned quite a bit as well back in college. Although you may not think it affects your driving it really probably does. It's you decision to drive stone or not stoned but assure eventually you will realize it affects your reaction time and ability to make quick decisions on the road. I almost learned this the hard way after almost having a near accident.

I won't be a hypocrite and tell you no to do it since I am guilty of the transgression in the past but I will warn yuo to be careful and consider that it may affect your driving more the you think.

that's fine, but the point is that this guy need to know what he is talking about before he comes down on people. It really gets on my nerves when people will drink like a fish, then turn their nose up at someone who smokes weed. like everybody likes the beligerant drunk but hates the stoner. it's all thanks to the government and narrow mined people like mediocre man who have made weed taboo in the us, when the worst that comes from getting high is the munchies and laughing.

**sa1177** · 02-27-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tradetheo

that's fine, but the point is that this guy need to know what he is talking about before he comes down on people. It really gets on my nerves when people will drink like a fish, then turn their nose up at someone who smokes weed. like everybody likes the beligerant drunk but hates the stoner. it's all thanks to the government and narrow mined people like mediocre man who have made weed taboo in the us, when the worst that comes from getting high is the munchies and laughing.

True there is more of a stigma for people who smoke pot then for those who drink. I can't say I agree with that but it's reality. Nothing is going to change anytime soon with the current conservative administration in power. It likely wouldn't even with a more liberal one.

Redbeard · 02-27-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sa1177

interesting...I used to drive stoned quite a bit as well back in college. Although you may not think it affects your driving it really probably does. It's you decision to drive stone or not stoned but assure eventually you will realize it affects your reaction time and ability to make quick decisions on the road. I almost learned this the hard way after almost having a near accident.

I won't be a hypocrite and tell you no to do it since I am guilty of the transgression in the past but I will warn yuo to be careful and consider that it may affect your driving more the you think.

I also have to agree with this. Although I will drive with someone that is stoned over someone that is drunk anyday, it is still dangerous. I think the window around a half hour after smoking, when you reach the peak, is probably the worst. Just be aware that you have been smoking. It is probably not so much the traffic, but the pedestrians in your periferal vision that you won't always see.

Than again, any bone head, sober or ****** up can stop paying attention and hit something.

**sa1177** · 02-27-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Redbeard

I also have to agree with this. Although I will drive with someone that is stoned over someone that is drunk anyday, it is still dangerous. I think the window around a half hour after smoking, when you reach the peak, is probably the worst. Just be aware that you have been smoking. It is probably not so much the traffic, but the pedestrians in your periferal vision that you won't always see.

Than again, any bone head, sober or ****** up can stop paying attention and hit something.

Agreed...also for me it was reaction time...When I had the near miss I spoke of it was like I saw the oncoming car, knew I had to swerve to avoid it but it took me way to long to react and actually swerve. We ended up barely clipping bumpers which still caused my car to spin out but did no dmg. other then a scratch. I consider myself lucky.

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