View Poll Results: Which PG should we trade this offseason?

Steve Blake 47 59.49%
Jarrett Jack 7 8.86%
Sebastian Telfair 23 29.11%
Trade all three 2 2.53%
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:34 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Which PG should we trade?

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Trade Telfair. He's not any good, but most people don't realize it yet. Therefore you should be able to get some value in return.
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:42 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: Which PG should we trade?

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you don't think that a fan who's a "soonerterp" by name isn't just a TAAAAD bit biased, and that Portland fans can see that?

You don't see how thinking a player who's not putting up terribly imperssive #'s after 4 years of college and 3 in the NBA will be more than what he is, isn't a little crazy?

it's not "hate", it's reality.
Actually I think that she is referring to the fact that whenever someone questions Telfair's ability or his annointed status as savior of the universe she is given a lot of flak. And I've actually read a few threads where ridiculous accusations are made about her for her opinions. You think Telfair will be better than he is, that's quite possible. Well bballchik thinks the same with Blake. The only reality is that either could be true.

And by the way, this "hate" thing is about the stupidest terminology ever invented. Right up there with "talk to the hand".
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Old 04-05-2006, 06:11 PM   #48 (permalink)
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you don't think that a fan who's a "soonerterp" by name isn't just a TAAAAD bit biased, and that Portland fans can see that?

You don't see how thinking a player who's not putting up terribly imperssive #'s after 4 years of college and 3 in the NBA will be more than what he is, isn't a little crazy?

it's not "hate", it's reality.
possibly but is it also possible that the angry blake "disliking" (won't say hate) fans here are a taaaad bit biased as well?

telfair was brought in here last year and you got to watch him start at the end of the year last year, you are pumped full of advertising about him being the savior of the team, the future of the franchise, the next big player, the leader of the youth movement, and then you don't get to watch him because blake got the start and telfair got demoted to the bench.

i tend to think some people here are a bit biased towards telfair because 1. he was here first and 2. he was supposed to be the next big thing for you guys.

hence the dislike for big bad mean blake who stole the savior's spot hence destroying your sought after hours of watching telfair play.
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Old 04-05-2006, 06:17 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: Which PG should we trade?

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Are these constant attacks all by the same couple people? Are they provoked by your attacks on Telfar? Are they attacks on Blake himself or your arguements regarding him? I think you overstate the "hate" dramatically. Remember, it's usually the loudest thats the easiest to notice, not the most numerous.
yes the worst attacks are by a few people, who i realize attack others as well, but the majority also stands with them.

no they are not provoked, i have never started any argument about the blake vs telfair debate because i honestly think it is unwinnable (see my post above).

i do defend blake because i think the dislike for him tends to be unfair at times (see yakbladder's post i believe it sums it up nicely). but i have never attacked telfair. i have said numerous times i think he will be a good player some day but i don't think his style matches that of nate's. that is not a disparaging remark at all, it is one of matching styles. also i think he is a bit short to defend a lot of the other guards in the league and they tend to shoot over him at times and i wish he kept his head up a bit more. but i've never said he sucks, trade him for a pack of gum, or "he's a thug" as sambonius likes to make up that i've said.

if you find yourself with extra time on your hands i invite you to read my posts becaue i think you'll see i do not disparage telfair, i just try to even things out in the great debate by defending someone with less people on his side to defend. guess i like the underdog.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:47 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Actually I think that she is referring to the fact that whenever someone questions Telfair's ability or his annointed status as savior of the universe she is given a lot of flak.
I'm not sure if saying that people "annoited him savior of the universe", so when it's brought up as tho thats an actual arguement, you're basically creating your own arguement to beat, which wasn't really made.

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And I've actually read a few threads where ridiculous accusations are made about her for her opinions. You think Telfair will be better than he is, that's quite possible. Well bballchik thinks the same with Blake. The only reality is that either could be true.

And by the way, this "hate" thing is about the stupidest terminology ever invented. Right up there with "talk to the hand".
yep, and the "your boy" references that occasionally get made.
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possibly but is it also possible that the angry blake "disliking" (won't say hate) fans here are a taaaad bit biased as well?
yes and no. the fans who became Blazer BECAUSE Telfair was drafted (are they actually any?)? They're not terribly unbiased. But it's a small #.

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telfair was brought in here last year and you got to watch him start at the end of the year last year, you are pumped full of advertising about him being the savior of the team, the future of the franchise, the next big player, the leader of the youth movement, and then you don't get to watch him because blake got the start and telfair got demoted to the bench.

i tend to think some people here are a bit biased towards telfair because 1. he was here first and 2. he was supposed to be the next big thing for you guys.
I don't think anyone actually thought he'd BE the "next big thing", but that he could be the "next big thing".

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hence the dislike for big bad mean blake who stole the savior's spot hence destroying your sought after hours of watching telfair play.
see, this is exactly what I'm talking about. you're creating an argument to argue against, that was never made (or at least, to the degree you're trying to imply). Because it has to be that he's the "savior" and it can't be that he's a much better prospect and already in his 2nd year is ahead of where Blake was in his 2nd year, *and* is several years younger.

It has to be that he's the "savior"..
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you don't think that a fan who's a "soonerterp" by name isn't just a TAAAAD bit biased, and that Portland fans can see that?
And I've ADMITTED as such on this forum, to having a bias towards Blake -- I have followed his career a long time. That does not automatically mean I dislike or wish ill will towards Sebastian Telfair (who was great against Houston, BTW)! He is a very good player himself and also improving ... frankly if you ask me having too many point guards is a good problem to have. The problem and the strife come from which one of these fine players does this team have to jettison?

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You don't see how thinking a player who's not putting up terribly imperssive #'s after 4 years of college and 3 in the NBA will be more than what he is, isn't a little crazy?

it's not "hate", it's reality.
Mayhaps so but remember in Washington he was stuck behind Gilbert Arenas AND lost half the 2004-2005 season to ankle injury/surgery. It is only this season where he's seen significant minutes outside of occasional starts when Arenas was hurt. I'm not saying he's gonna be Steve Nash or anything, but he is MUCH better than he certainly played against Houston Wednesday.
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Telfair and Jack both have more upside, while Steve has about topped out. It's an easy call to make. Sorry Steve...
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There is no reason to trade any of them. Three is the right number of point guards to have. We have three.

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Re: Which PG should we trade?

Barfo might be right. Maybe the better question should be which of the three PG's should we bench.
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