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Old 04-03-2006, 11:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

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Noah has a weak offensive game but is a pretty good shot blocker...I don't see him getting regular minutes for awhile anyways...

This team needs someone who can make shots...P

Pryzbilla's 9 blocked shots really helped us last night
I wouldn't say he has a weak offensive game...

In comparison to NBA players his height he'd be above average passes, dribbler, and FT shooter. He finishes well near the hoop and has a high basketball IQ.

He doesn't have the range nor the bulk, but both those things can be added. I'm not a huge Noah fan, but the guy has offensive skills, he just isn't a pure shooter.
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Old 04-04-2006, 12:00 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

I think that this kid right now has 2 weaknesses.

1) Lack of Mass: He is far to skinny right now, and really needs to bulk up. Sadly, his frame reminds me of Mikki Moore. That said, Noah seems to have the drive and confidence to hit the weights and get up to at least 240 if not 250.

2) Akward Jumper Form: He shoots from a low point and just looks like a goof. This can be corrected with a good shooting coach and I think that he has the potential to be shooting NBA 3's a few years from now

Looking at his 2 weaknesses, you can see both can be corrected with a weight trainer and a shooting coach.

Now look at what he is good at. First, he is both quick making post moves and off the ground and has NBA speed up and down the floor. He has great shotblocking instincts, and uses his long arms very well to grab rebounds. He also can handle the ball as well as any other 7' footer I have seen since Dirk or KG, and has passing skills that simply can not be tought.

Then you have to take into account his passion. Other than Adam Morrison, I have yet to see a NCAA player this year play as hard, only Noah plays hard on both sides of the floor. He never stops moving, has a motor that is simply hard to find. These X factors make him my favorite pick after Adam, and maby Andrea.

I hope that we can trade up into the top 10 and grab Noah, as I feel teams may shy away from his schronnyness and bad J form and we could steal him.
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Old 04-04-2006, 12:19 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

It seems to me we need to get somebody in this draft who has (in this order):

1. Star-level skill
2. Fiercely competitive mentality
3. Length
4. Defense

Noah is definitely one of the guys we need to take a hard, hard look at (IMO along with Bargnani, Thomas, and Morrison). I don't want any part of Aldridge or Gay because I think they're both severely lacking in #2 above.

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Old 04-04-2006, 12:37 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I think that this kid right now has 2 weaknesses.

1) Lack of Mass
2) Akward Jumper Form
Bingo! Though in this draft he still may be as bright a prospect as any other to my eyes. I'll be very interested to see how he measures out in the predraft. I'm hoping he has the size/length to (eventually) guard 4s and 5s... something in the 6'9.5+ height (barefoot) with a 7+ wingspan would put him in the top prospect mix.

I do like Bigs with D.

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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

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It seems to me we need to get somebody in this draft who has (in this order):

1. Star-level skill
2. Fiercely competitive mentality
3. Length
4. Defense

Noah is definitely one of the guys we need to take a hard, hard look at (IMO along with Bargnani, Thomas, and Morrison). I don't want any part of Aldridge or Gay because I think they're both severely lacking in #2 above.

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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

wade :P

he reminds me of ak47 with more fire

I have never wnated gay and i stopped wanting aldridge since i learned about his injury (bowie bowie bowie)
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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

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He can barely make a 10 foot jumper in college, let alone a 3 pointer at the college level...What makes you think he'll be able to shoot NBA 3's just cause of a shooting coach?....
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:02 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

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He can barely make a 10 foot jumper in college, let alone a 3 pointer at the college level...What makes you think he'll be able to shoot NBA 3's just cause of a shooting coach?....
I agree 100%...I don't see any signs of him becoming a three-point shooter in the NBA. He, like many good players in the NBA will probably learn to hit shots from inside 15 feet on a regular basis, but not much further.
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:17 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

I'm not sold. He doesn't seem to do anything particularly well even at the college level, except block shots, and I don't look at him as anything more than an average starter at the NBA level.

I'd pass on him if we're in the top five.

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Re: Let's draft Joakim Noah!

Let's not and say we did. Deal?
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:18 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Huh? Maybe we were watching different games last night.

In the NCAA finals game (the one that I was watching), Noah showed a whole range of skills. For starters, he's very active around the boards, blocking out, rebounding, defending, and starting the break. He handles the ball very well for a big man, is extremely smart, and has great hands.

But I was especially struck by his passing. He seems to have eyes in the back of his head, and made a number of deft passes to cutting players. He moves the ball around very well, and seems to have a great sense of where his teammates are and who should get the ball. If you need a reminder of how important this skill is, think Zach Randolph. Enough said.

I was also impressed by Noah's willingness to mix it up inside, stick with his man, and battle non-stop until he gets the ball. He has a huge heart and lots of competitive fire, and that's a quality that has multiple intangible benefits for a team. I see him as the kind of guy who could perhaps light a fire under a player like Travis Outlaw.

Finally, there's his quickness. As someone else has pointed out, he seems to jump before everyone else, to get to the ball more quickly, and to recover more quickly than most. Even if he misses a block, he's right back in the action immediately. He doesn't let himself get taken out of the mix.

In short, this guy has a combination of skills that will make him immensely valuable to an NBA team. Unless his performance last night was a total fluke (and most observers say it wasn't), then he is gold come draft time.

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Huh? Maybe we were watching different games last night.
Maybe. Like I said: not that impressed.

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If we did draft Noah, with him and Ha, we'd have two of the ugliest dudes in the league.
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:16 AM   #29 (permalink)
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