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tlong · 04-04-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SMiLE

and yuo might being doing the same for the other players you like (and conversely, I might be doing the same for the players I like, altho I don't say that Morrison IS the best player, etc, or they HAVE to take him)

I'm not sure what the point is that you're trying to make.

bucketboy · 04-04-2006, 05:22 PM

People, DO NOT BE FOOLED BY CBS! Look at the teams left in the Final Four, NO BIG TIME TEAMS. NO BIG TIME PLAYERS that you knew about 4 weeks ago. They had to hype up someone, especially after GM went down to FL. Look at last nights game, anytime Noah did ANYTHING well it was replayed ad naseum (not to mention two highlights where he traveled). Wait to see how he does in workouts and such. And please no comparisons to Sheed or Dirk, all you have to do is watch him take a jumper to know that he is not that player. He has a VERY limited offensive game.

It's_GO_Time · 04-04-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kaydow

A couple of weeks ago - I wouldn't have even considered Noah. I'm still not ready to say draft him with a top 3-5 pick (assuming he were to declare), but I'd say you have to take a hard look at him. He showed me some things I don't know that I've ever seen from a 6'11" guy - the speed, the ball handling, passing ability, ability to block shots and come down with the ball after the block. I didn't see anybody outmuscle him either, and that was (maybe still is) one of my concerns. He's physically stronger than I thought. He's only been playing basketball for 5 years? That's crazy. He plays so smart. He could stand to look for his shot a little more, but he's athletic enough to be an effective scorer in the NBA. Ewing shot jump hooks and dunks at G-town - who knew when he was drafted he would develop a mid-range 18-20 footer? Same with Zo. Noah shoots a pretty good % from the line. His jumper kinda reminds me of Camby's - goofy looking, but not bad. I'd like to see/hear more about how Noah does in work-outs, but he's got my attention. I don't think Florida wins that game last night w/o Noah. His ability to disrupt things around the rim defensively and help break the press offensively were the difference in the game. Most dominating performance I've seen from a Collegiate Big Man in a long time. Even though his 16/9 might not blow your socks off - if you watched the game, you know what I'm talking about.

Good post. I feel the same way. I don't know enough about him to say Blazers should draft him, but I was impressed with what I saw and think given his athletic ability and height, you can't ignore him during the draft evaluation process.

**sa1177** · 04-04-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tlong

Noah was named the Most Outstanding Player of the NCAA tournament and his team had only one close game in their route to the title. How can you definitively say that another college player was better?

I didn't say any player was "better" just said I "disagree" with you. MVP of the tourney is a nice award and all but it doesn't make you the best player in college basketball. And his team's performance certainly doesn't make him the "best." As I recall Florida had a few other good players on that team and a good coach to boot.

Apparently you think there is at least one player as worthy as Noah. Or have you changed your mind due to a couple games?

http://www.basketballboards.net/foru...d.php?t=254205

tlong · 04-04-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sa1177

I didn't say any player was "better" just said I "disagree" with you. MVP of the tourney is a nice award and all but it doesn't make you the best player in college basketball. And his team's performance certainly doesn't make him the "best." As I recall Florida had a few other good players on that team and a good coach to boot.

Apparently you think there is at least one player as worthy as Noah. Or have you changed your mind due to a couple games?

http://www.basketballboards.net/foru...d.php?t=254205

I have been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again. I feel no shame for that. What are you disagreeing about then?

**sa1177** · 04-04-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tlong

I have been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again. I feel no shame for that. What are you disagreeing about then?

Not to put all our eggs in one basket...Noah isn't nearly good enough for us to do that IMO.

**Dan** · 04-04-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tlong

I'm not sure what the point is that you're trying to make.

that you're guilty, like all fans who aren't robots like Ed O (altho ed has had his weak-moments), of changing your mind of who you think is the best player, or who is a good player.

**Dan** · 04-04-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiss_My_Darius

Good post. I feel the same way. I don't know enough about him to say Blazers should draft him, but I was impressed with what I saw and think given his athletic ability and height, you can't ignore him during the draft evaluation process.

at this point, the team can't ignore anyone in the evaluation process. No one is a "set" pick (as far as we fans think I mean).

Utherhimo · 04-04-2006, 06:43 PM

i did the espn draft things and this is what i got:

#1: Adam Morrison (1)
#2: nil
#3: Noah (3) Tyrus (2) Adam (1)
#4: Aldridge (2) Noah (1)
#5: Aldridge (1)

total times drafting player: Noah (4) Aldridge (3) Morrison (2) Tyrus (2)

i would happy for any of those players just glad Gay didnt come up once!

I think if we win the first pick thats when we can have the agruement about who to take.
This is what we should do say if we get the 3rd pick: best player that is left be it tyrus, morrison or noah
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4th? Take the best player be it noah bargnani tyrus aldridge
5th? either trade up using our 30th or 33rd pick or trading it for a veteran or hope for someone to fall to you.

i think its pretty clear that we dont need to fight over 3-5 on who we take the best player left on the board, the only way i see us needing to fight over who we take is if the ping pong balls give us number#1.

but it sure beating thinking about the losses........

zagsfan20 · 04-04-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tlong

Noah was named the Most Outstanding Player of the NCAA tournament and his team had only one close game in their route to the title. How can you definitively say that another college player was better?

Then you mean he was the best player of the tournament...

Which I agree, but just because you play well in a 6 game tournament doesn't make you the best player...

**Blazer Freak** · 04-04-2006, 10:11 PM

I wouldn't mind drafting him I guess. I'm liking quite a few players in the Top 5

Joakim Noah
Rodney Carney
Adam Morrison
LaMarcus Aldridge

ThatBlazerGuy · 04-04-2006, 10:35 PM

To me Noah is the best big man in this draft. I just dont want LaMarcus he is too laid back like Miles.

Andrea and Adam are still my top choices, but we really need to get another lotto pick and grab one of the 8 good big men.

tlong · 04-05-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by zagsfan20

Then you mean he was the best player of the tournament...

Which I agree, but just because you play well in a 6 game tournament doesn't make you the best player...

True, but the tournament was the most recent string of games and I believe you have to place more importance on the most recent performance of players.

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