mook

he was the best player we had on two Western Conference Finals teams. it may be fifteen years before we get there again, folks.

this is from NBA.com:
* Selected to third All-Star team 02/09/06
* Recorded his 5,000th career rebound on 12/3/05 vs. Chicago
* Teamed with Ben Wallace to form the fifth-best block shot duo in the league (3.84 bpg) in 2005
* Recorded at least one block in all but 16 games in 2005
* Named NBA Community Assist Award winner for February, 2005 for his “Student Achiever Program” and “Sheed’s Squad” ticket giveaway
* Recorded a playoff career-high five blocks in Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals at Indiana on 5/24/04
* Scored a 2004 playoff-high 26 points on 10-of-23 shooting with 13 rebounds in Game 4 of the NBA Finals vs. LA Lakers (6/13)
* Named to the NBA Western Conference All-Star Team in 2000 and 2001
* Finished second to Orlando's Darrell Armstrong in voting for the NBA's Sixth Man Award in 1998-99 after ranking sixth in the league in field goal percentage at .508 and finishing second on the team in scoring (12.8 ppg) and third in rebounding (4.9 rpg) and blocks (1.10 bpg)
* Named to the 1995-96 NBA All-Rookie Second Team after averaging 10.1 ppg and 4.7 rpg
* Participated in the Schick NBA Rookie Game during the 1996 NBA All-Star Weekend in San Antonio, scoring 12 points, including the winning basket for the Eastern Conference

three all-star teams. a top player on four conference finals teams. two finals appearances. one championship.

nope, he doesn't deserve any of the success he's had with the Pistons.

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mook

quick poll: am I the only one who never reads the rest of any post when a poster makes a stupid and overused joke with the player's name? ("Frobe", "Rashweed," etc)

it's sort of like trying to have a conversation with someone who is eating with their mouth open. they may have the most brilliant, insightful point in the world, but all I can think of is, "Ick."

guess that seems a little ironic, given my avatar and handle.

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sa1177

His performance on the floor has nothing to do with the reasons why I feel he is not deserving of playing on a championship team. Guess it comes down to the fact that I would much rather see a nice guy winning a NBA championship ring then a bum like Rasheed.

Wasn't Sheed something like 0-14 in 4th quarter in the infamous meltdown against the Lakers. As noted by someone else earlier..Sheed never raised his game in the playoffs and thus the team never realized it's potential IMO.

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RedHot&Rolling

Please, disregard my inference to hannibus in his name. Please consider all other points made.

Nice Giraffe!

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And I was saying that his play is the reason he deserves to be on a championship caliber team. Because him being there is one of the reasons they are championship caliber.

Your earlier posts don't show me any reason why he didn't deserve to go to the Pistons. The only information I could get out of them was "I hate Rasheed".

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barfo

Ok, so you hate him for something other than basketball. Fine, but basketball is what determines champions, not whatever mysterious grudge you are holding against him.

Did you hang around Sheed every day? If so, please fill us in.

barfo

tlong

Agreed. Everyone in Portland tried to make Sheed a leader, which is just not him. I was happy with what he was...one of the best complimentary players the league has ever seen.

sa1177

I suppose I should have explained that I don't think he deserved a championship due to his actions off the court rather then his actions on it. Like I said earlier, I would rather see a nice guy win a ring then a ahole.

This is the reason I hope Artest, Barry Bonds, T.O., Todd Bertuzzi etc....never win rings.

And yes I hate Rasheed that's no secret.

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sa1177

My friend Brian Fachini was the Blazers PR assistant for a number of years. Thus he would often travel with the team go out with the team after games etc. I probably went out with him and various players 50+ times over the couple years he was there before he moved to the Spurs. The big spot back then was the Shadow Room downtown or sometimes Stars Cabaret. Sheed was sometimes friendly and sometimes rude. He would often be-little people to make others laugh at their exspense. He wasn't particulary friendly to Brian or the rest of his staff who was simply their to serve the players. Alot of other guys were very friendly to us...D.A., Damon among others.

Damon did try to take one of my friends sisters home once and we almost came to blows when we told Damon she wasn't going with him. She was underage and at the bar with a fake ID. He apologized to us and her a couple days later and blew it off on being really drunk.

And "basketball" isn't the only thing that determines champions, team cohesion, fan support plays a factor as well IMO and Sheed was detrimental to both those areas while here in Portland.

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STOMP

Fair enough. I'd rather a lot of things be different then they are. Basketball players aren't the guys that get me upset. Personally I get more riled up watching the our environment deteriorate, but whatever...

Sheed didn't miss 14 shots that game. He had 30 points on 13-26 shooting...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...06/04/lal_por/

overall his regular season and playoff stats are virtually identical...
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/rashee....html?nav=page

I'm pretty positive that while in Portland his playoff numbers were in fact above his regular season numbers.

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sa1177

I was guessing on the 0-14 but I could have sworn he was 0-(double digits) in the 4th quarter of that game. I stand corrected though it seems Sheed did have 1 FG in the 4th quarter of that game.

And the Enviromental problems of today make me furious as well, I was a Envr. Sci. major back in college. This is a sports forum though so here my hatred is directed at Sheed.

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Dan

wasn't rasheed traded like 2 years ago?

can't we ****ing let this go finally?

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