barfo

Well, obviously I'm arguing in vain, but not because I can't interpret facts.

Yes, Sheed's playoff stats are slightly worse (at least arguably) than his regular season stats.

Where we differ is that you implied that means that he "never" stepped up in the playoffs. And averages don't say anything about "never".

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sa1177

Actually I implied that...Barfo I really expect you to pay more attention. I suppose I would now revise my statement to "hardly ever" raised his stats in the playoffs. Either way he never lead the team to winning a damn thing. That's beside the point though.

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barfo

Well, no - actually you flat out stated that Sheed never stepped up. But Red Hot, by quoting you, and Minstrel, and suggesting that Minstrel was wrong when he said you were wrong, implied "it", where "it" is the mistaken argument that average stats prove anything about whether he ever came up big in the playoffs.

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sa1177

Well...you used the word "implied" so I was just using your lingo and not following your string of thoughts posted above. Implied, stated whatever frankly it doesn't matter..you got my point and I got yours.

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barfo

Ok, I can live with that.

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sa1177

And with supermodels apparently.

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barfo

It makes life a lot more exciting, let me tell you. Maintenance costs are very high, however.

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Minstrel

The underpriviledged that he's helped in two cities all count as "family and friends?"

If you're telling me that a good person is never disrespectful to anyone, I disagree with you. With no context as to when he was "rude" (in your friend's eyes), I have no way to evaluate that. I do evaluate his being charitable with his time and money, and being a caring father as qualities of a good person.

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To say beung charitable makes someone a "good person" is just silly...so anyone who donates money to a couple of charities automatically becomes a "good person." That's a total farce IMO. How many criminals, crooks, embezzlers have donated money to charities? Are they all good people now?

Being good to those you care about (family, children etc) does not make you a "good person" but rather a good family man, father etc.

We each define what is good or bad in our own minds and you're certainly entitled to your oppinon in that regard.

For me it's a issue of giving each and every person a simple amount of respect, this was not important to Mr. Wallace in my eyes. Every Blazer I spent time around with the exception of Sheed and Bonzi was at least respectful to those around them 99% of the time.

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Minstrel

I didn't say either automatically made him a good person. I said that those are qualities of a good person and are far more compelling to me than "my friend said he was sometimes rude."

Personally, I think people spuriously have decided Wallace is a bad person, and I think the verifiable evidence is more to the contrary, though I grant that it isn't conclusive.

Also, as a minor point, Wallace has given his time as well as money. I don't think there are very many crooks and embezzlers who willingly give their time to the less fortunate. Again, though, I'm not saying that it automatically makes him a good person...but it's highly creditable and weighs far more to the positive than the ocassional rudeness that you or your friend perceived weighs in the negative, in my opinion.

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Moral relativism - the root of our world's evil. We have for centuries defined good and bad by moral law (golden rule, Ten Commandments, etc.) not our own imagination. That's only happened the past 50 years or so.

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