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Old 04-13-2006, 10:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

As a follow up....

PG Telfair
SG Webster
SF Morrison
PF O'Neal
C Przybilla

does not = #1 overall in 2007
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Old 04-13-2006, 10:34 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

I agree Schilly...IF POR lands O'Neal and a Morrison (or another player with that top 3 pick)...and can retain Pryzbilla (not necessary)...chances are POR becomes a much more competitive team...


Zach, Outlaw, Blake and a future 1st for Jermaine and filler

PG Telfair, Jack
SG Webster, Dixon
SF Morrison, Khryapa
PF O'Neal, Skinner
C Pryzbilla, Theo, Ha

Re-signing Lenard wouldn't necessarily be a bad move either (if they could convince him to re-sign)

and then POR still has Miles to deal and the DET pick and 2nd ropunder to add another player (Hassan Adams? Mike Gansey?) or use with MIles to deal him away...
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Old 04-13-2006, 10:41 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

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He missed half the games last season for fighting, not injury.
He was suspended for 25 games. He missed 38. This season he has missed 30 games. I don't see how he could not be considered an injury risk. For comparison, Theo Ratliff has played in more games both seasons then Jermaine. However, like I said, I would take him back anyways. It just adjusts the price I would be willing to play.
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Old 04-13-2006, 10:50 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

If you're including a pick, just top 3 protect it for the next couple of years...
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:08 AM   #20 (permalink)
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The authenticity of this article is questionable at best. I don't believe a word of it.
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:14 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

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He was suspended for 25 games. He missed 38. This season he has missed 30 games. I don't see how he could not be considered an injury risk. For comparison, Theo Ratliff has played in more games both seasons then Jermaine. However, like I said, I would take him back anyways. It just adjusts the price I would be willing to play.

If I recall correctly wasn;t it a groin and then a shoulder injury? Not too concerned since it doesn't appear to a chronic injury each year. I definately see you point though.
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:15 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

i would want JO back but not for a high price due to the fact of the injuries....but i'd say zach would HAVE to be part of the deal as well as darius cuz the way he has been acting this year


but i dont see a trade falling through like that...realistically
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:19 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

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I agree Schilly...IF POR lands O'Neal and a Morrison (or another player with that top 3 pick)...and can retain Pryzbilla (not necessary)...chances are POR becomes a much more competitive team...


Zach, Outlaw, Blake and a future 1st for Jermaine and filler

PG Telfair, Jack
SG Webster, Dixon
SF Morrison, Khryapa
PF O'Neal, Skinner
C Pryzbilla, Theo, Ha

Re-signing Lenard wouldn't necessarily be a bad move either (if they could convince him to re-sign)

and then POR still has Miles to deal and the DET pick and 2nd ropunder to add another player (Hassan Adams? Mike Gansey?) or use with MIles to deal him away...
what about miles...lol


also if you look at it like that....

clears up the point guard jam
clears up the small forward jam
we rid of zach
we get JO
joel may want to resign to a more competative team
voshon may want to resign to a more competative team
if neither of them resigned we could resign someone else because JO is a good player people want to be around good players


with that team we would be back in the playoffs next year
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:20 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

I think just about everybody would give up Zach and/or Miles for O'Neal - but that's because we'd give up both of them for a bag of charcoal at this point.

There's a reason that the Pacers are thinking about getting rid of O'Neal: he's just not that great. Granted he's a bit better than Zach (because he blocks the odd shot or two) but not much, and he has a HUMUNGOUS salary. I say offer any combination of Zach, Miles and Theo (and Dixon and Blake) but no more, and if they don't like that, no biggie.
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:25 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back

Theo and Miles? Abso-freakin-lutely. Jermaine and Zach could man the 4/5 spots and our pick could be plugged into the 3 spot (or Webster could be in the long run).

Theo, Miles, and our 2006 pick? Maybe, but probably not unless there was a deal in place to trade Zach for value. Zach and Jermaine together wouldn't be optimal, and giving up our 2006 pick would be too much without getting something for Zach.

Theo, Miles, and our 2007 pick? Maybe, and probably "yes" if we can top-3 protect the pick.

Zach and our 2007 pick? Again: Maybe, and probably "yes" if we can top-3 protect the pick.

Zach and our 2006 pick? No. Zach's about 3 years younger than Jermaine and the improvement wouldn't be enough to justify losing this year's pick.. although it would be enough to spoil a legit chance at Oden next year.

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Old 04-13-2006, 11:28 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't know Meru. I think the one main thing Jermaine offers us is respectability around the league. Players don't want to come here as it stands. Jermaine is seen as an all star in the prime of his career. If nothing else he might attract more players. he also has the respect of officials and the NBA. These are really important things when you have a young team. Another thing he brings is merchandising. I know here in Houston a lot more people know who Jermaine Oneal is than Zach Randolph. It helps sell, thus making the Blazer brand more popular.
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:32 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Do the deal if it doesn't include the following:
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- Webster
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- The 2006 #1 Pick.
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:36 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Agreed. He never played very hard when he was in Portland. He used to come off the bench with this sort of Sunday-in-the-Park stroll, like he didn't have a care in the world, and then he'd trot up and down the court like he was trying to save his energy for something more important later on that evening. I can't remember him ever diving for a loose ball, or going 100% for a whole game.

In my opinion, he's one of those talented players who will never be what he should be because he doesn't have the fire in his belly. We've had too many of those guys in Portland. I say pass on Jermaine.
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