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Pacers Fan · 04-13-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mediocre man

If I recall correctly wasn;t it a groin and then a shoulder injury? Not too concerned since it doesn't appear to a chronic injury each year. I definately see you point though.

And a hyperextended knee, thanks to Ben Wallace.

Basically, he's just had some bad fluke injury for the past 3 years.

chromekilla · 04-13-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fork

I wouldn't give up the 2007 pick for anything.

I suspect we'll still be a lotto team, even if we're a late lotto team. Even a 1% chance at Greg Oden (or Kevin Durant or Thaddeus Young) is a chance you HAVE to keep.

How about this: (not my idea, it's cribbed from another website)

Zach, Miles, Blake plus our number one pick in 2006 for Jermaine, Danny Granger and their #1 pick (mid first round)

That actually seems decent to me.

Great trade i like it.Very good post i will rep u.

Stepping Razor · 04-13-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fork

I wouldn't give up the 2007 pick for anything.

I suspect we'll still be a lotto team, even if we're a late lotto team. Even a 1% chance at Greg Oden (or Kevin Durant or Thaddeus Young) is a chance you HAVE to keep.

How about this: (not my idea, it's cribbed from another website)

Zach, Miles, Blake plus our number one pick in 2006 for Jermaine, Danny Granger and their #1 pick (mid first round)

That actually seems decent to me.

I don't think there's any way Indy would do that. My impression is that they love Granger. If they're willing to throw in the towel on Jermaine (and I'm skeptical) I can't see them ditching Granger in the same deal. Even to move up in the draft.

Stepping Razor

hasoos · 04-13-2006, 02:09 PM

For those of you complaining about his salary...would you rather be paying 20 million a year to Jermaine Oneal, or would you rather be paying 20 million for Zbo and Ratliff? Think about what you are saying...All Star..or two over paid scrubs...All Star...or Two Overpaid scrubs...

I do not think you really need to think that one over do you?

zagsfan20 · 04-13-2006, 02:18 PM

I'm sure Z-Bo would be happy to go back home if given the opportunity....

but, who is Ben Maller and how does he know more than what Indiana's press knows?..

**Schilly** · 04-13-2006, 02:31 PM

I could actually see a 3 team deal with Minnesota as being more plausible....and no, we wouldn't end up with KG.

chromekilla · 04-13-2006, 02:32 PM

Im assuming we wouldn't get kg or jo or pretty much anyone that would help us.

Pacers Fan · 04-13-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fork

I wouldn't give up the 2007 pick for anything.

I suspect we'll still be a lotto team, even if we're a late lotto team. Even a 1% chance at Greg Oden (or Kevin Durant or Thaddeus Young) is a chance you HAVE to keep.

How about this: (not my idea, it's cribbed from another website)

Zach, Miles, Blake plus our number one pick in 2006 for Jermaine, Danny Granger and their #1 pick (mid first round)

That actually seems decent to me.

Except that Granger is the best young prospect the Pacers have seen in a while. I wouldn't trade him for even Zach Randolph and Darius Miles, let alone package him with a mid-first rounder and Jermaine O'Neal for Zach, Miles, a 4th string PG, and a high draft pick in a weak draft.

ThereIsNoTry · 04-13-2006, 02:45 PM

Theo Ratliff, Zach Randolph, Darius Miles, JJack, and Detroits pick for Jermaine O'Neal, Austin Croshere, Tinsley, and Harrison.

PG- Telfair // Tinsley
SG- Martell // Dixon
SF- Morrison // Outlaw
PF- O'Neal // Croshere
C- Joel // Harrison

Other guys: Khryapa, Blake, Skinner

chromekilla · 04-13-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThereIsNoTry

Theo Ratliff, Zach Randolph, Darius Miles, JJack, and Detroits pick for Jermaine O'Neal, Austin Croshere, Tinsley, and Harrison.

PG- Telfair // Tinsley
SG- Martell // Dixon
SF- Morrison // Outlaw
PF- O'Neal // Croshere
C- Joel // Harrison

Other guys: Khryapa, Blake, Skinner

**** that i would never do that trade.

ThatBlazerGuy · 04-13-2006, 03:35 PM

I would give up Jack to get Jermaine. I love the guy, but he is our future backup PG and Jermaine is a all-star PF.

Zach Randolph, Brian Skinner, Travis Outlaw, Steve Blake, Detroits 1st rounder and a lotto protected 1st rounder in 2007(Unprotected in 08') for Jermaine O'Neal and Sarus. That would be my preferred deal. Indiana wont want Darius IMO, as they already have Granger. We could deal Miles and our 2nd rounder to Houston for Howard and their 1st rounder!! Draft Morrison with our pick, and Josh McRoberts with Houstons pick

PG- S.Telfair/J.Jack
SG- M.Webster/Sarus
SF- A.Morrison/V.Khryapa
PF- J.O'Neal/J.McRoberts
C- J.Pryzbilla/T.Ratliff

JFizzleRaider · 04-13-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThereIsNoTry

Theo Ratliff, Zach Randolph, Darius Miles, JJack, and Detroits pick for Jermaine O'Neal, Austin Croshere, Tinsley, and Harrison.

PG- Telfair // Tinsley
SG- Martell // Dixon
SF- Morrison // Outlaw
PF- O'Neal // Croshere
C- Joel // Harrison

Other guys: Khryapa, Blake, Skinner

I would do it, gives us Jermaine, we keep our 1st rounder, get rid of problem children Miles and Randolph. WE no longer have Theo which is good. WE give up Jack but eh, we get Tinsley who should be a great backup/starter. Plus I believe this gives Joel a reason to resign with us

Masbee · 04-13-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hasoos

For those of you complaining about his salary...would you rather be paying 20 million a year to Jermaine Oneal, or would you rather be paying 20 million for Zbo and Ratliff? Think about what you are saying...All Star..or two over paid scrubs...All Star...or Two Overpaid scrubs...

I do not think you really need to think that one over do you?

I assume you are referring to my post.

And yes, it was a one-sided post that only talked about J.O.'s salary and the Pacers situation.

Note, I didn't say we should not trade for J.O, especially if he WANTS to come here (a dubious claim at best).

Only pointing out that giving up too much for him would be a mistake. An overrated player (by many), with injury issues, on a HUGE deal - that player isn't worth a whole lot to me.

And by pointing out his HUGE salary, it should go without saying that the only trade the Blazers should consider is one where they dump their big contracts. Otherwise, it is unworkable. This means Zach (with his own injury issues) MUST be going out as his $55million over the next 4 years & $73 million over the next 5 years (with much of it deferred payments), counteract part of the salary of J.O. of $82 million over the next 4 years.

Jermaine has been a better player than Zach. I know that. But if he comes to the West, he will find it very hard to make the All-Star team again, yet he is being paid like a SuperStar.

Trading Zach for J.O. will make the Blazers salary situation WORSE than it already is. I don't know if that is the direction the team needs to be moving.

Unless we can craft a deal where they take Zach and Theo or Darius, without sending back equally nasty contracts - except for J.O.'s python buster.

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