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04-13-2006, 08:50 AM
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Jermaine wants to come back
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Jermaine O'Neal, former MVP candidate of the Pacers, is hoping for a trade to the Trail Blazers, according to BenMaller.com NBA moles. O'Neal played the first four years of his pro career with the Blazers and still makes his offseason home in Portland. Jermaine is set to make $18 million dollars in 2006-07, the Blazers could deal Theo Ratliff ($11.6 Mil) and Darius Miles ($7.7 Mil) to Indiana to match up salaries
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Yeah, I can see the Pacers jumping all over THAT one.
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04-13-2006, 08:57 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
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Yeah, I can see the Pacers jumping all over THAT one.
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Maybe not, but throw in our pick and they would. Throw Zach in there instead of Theo, include JJ, tough but maybe worth it to get Jermaine back. I don't think he's a savior, but he is a "star" player in the league that would make us better than Zach does
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04-13-2006, 09:02 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
I think this city would go nuts if Jermaine came back. It'd be great, IF he could stay healthy, which seems to be a problem the last few seasons.
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04-13-2006, 09:03 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
I haven't been following this story, so someone help me out. Why would the Pacers want to get rid of Jermaine? Are they starting a rebuilding plan?
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04-13-2006, 09:10 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
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I haven't been following this story, so someone help me out. Why would the Pacers want to get rid of Jermaine? Are they starting a rebuilding plan?
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yeah he would have to pull an artest for that to happen.
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04-13-2006, 09:20 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
O'Neal wants to be traded. Bird came out and said he would look into all options to improve the team. Then said that Jermaine might not be the leader he thought he would be.
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04-13-2006, 09:21 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
OK - if Jermaine requested a trade, and included the Blazers on his short list of preferred teams, here are the reasons the Pacers might consider it.
#1 - they're not helping out an Eastern Conference rival.
#2 - they could request the following:
a.) that the Blazers give up their 2007 pick (the Greg Oden year) and the one in 2009 (thus avoiding the "no trading picks in consecutive years" rule)
b.) that the Blazers send Zach Randolph (not a bad move, since Z-Bo's from Indiana)
c.) Blazers add in Darius Miles (Pacers could use some athleticism)
d.) and possibly, that the Blazers add a promising youngster (Travis Outlaw, Jarred Jack, or Viktor Khryapa) to balance salaries.
I think it'd be a bit of a gamble for the Pacers, on Randolph returning to form, Miles behaving, and on getting a major stud in the draft. Seems pretty fair to me.
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04-13-2006, 09:26 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
IMO this trade is all about the pick...without the pick it doesn't happen.
How much better would this team really be with Jermaine? IMO we would be a contender for the 7th/8th seed in the west, maybe the 5/6 if we overachieved.
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04-13-2006, 09:36 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
Blake miles theo or xbo and the 30th pick?
just think of what Shaq got in return JO cant be worth as much as shaq, [;us he has been injured as of late so maybe we can keep the high pick and get morrison or something.
funny how he still calls portland home guess the vines of oregonia stayahericus transplanti wrapped around him very well. hehe transplants :P
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04-13-2006, 10:12 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
While Jermaine is a better player then Zach, he is also far more injury prone. There is no way in hell I would trade our 2007 first rounder along with Zach for him. Outlaw, Khryapa, Blake, or a future first rounder (2008+) though I would definitely consider. Really though, Jermaine is a serious injury risk, that concerns me a lot (he's missed about half the games in each of the last two seasons, though some of that was the Brawl suspension). I'd love to have him back anyways.
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04-13-2006, 10:17 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
Anyone else having trouble getting into the link?
And what the hell is benmaller.com?
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04-13-2006, 10:24 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
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Originally Posted by Foulzilla
While Jermaine is a better player then Zach, he is also far more injury prone. There is no way in hell I would trade our 2007 first rounder along with Zach for him. Outlaw, Khryapa, Blake, or a future first rounder (2008+) though I would definitely consider. Really though, Jermaine is a serious injury risk, that concerns me a lot (he's missed about half the games in each of the last two seasons, though some of that was the Brawl suspension). I'd love to have him back anyways.
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He missed half the games last season for fighting, not injury. Zach missed a lot of the season last year due to injury and surgery. Zach is younger, Jermaine is better. Jermaine wants to play here, Zach doesn't. Jermaine is a percieved star, Zach isn't yet. To me it's a no brainer. The Pacers would do this if we include or swap picks this year I think, scary but again give to get I guess.
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04-13-2006, 10:25 AM
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Re: Jermaine wants to come back
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There is no way in hell I would trade our 2007 first rounder along with Zach for him... I'd love to have him back anyways.
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I agree with this. Why trade a good chunk of our team, PLUS a draft pick that could very likely turn out to be as good or better than Jermaine is? There is no reason to go nuts and overpay.
I'd hang onto that draft pick, unless there was some high degree of confidence that adding Jermaine to whatever players we'd have left after the trade would get us out of next year's lottery.
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04-13-2006, 10:26 AM
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