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**Cinco de Mayo** · 04-14-2006, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BrooklynBaller

I have. His name is Viktor Khryapa. Talk about a pathetic player. What exactly does Khryapa do on offense or defense that makes him so much more valuable than Outlaw? All I see is matador defense and a non-existent offensive game. Oh sure, Khryapa has a 'breakout' game every once in a while, but so does Travis.

Worst player in the NBA? Nah man, not even close to being the worst player on his team.

Agreed. Khryapa is terrible.

chromekilla · 04-14-2006, 12:33 AM

I think law will become a role player he could be a good player.He needs confidence and i would be willing to give him a 2 year deal for around 450k a year or whatever the lowest he would take.

ProZach · 04-14-2006, 12:52 AM

I've kept high hopes for Travis for several years now, but it's just not happening. Unlike Jermaine, He's been getting good playing time for over a year and hasn't really improved. He still looks like an unsure, scared rookie half the time. His athleticism is amazing, which is probably why I really wanted him to succeed, but his basketball IQ is significantly less than average.

As someone else said, I think it hurt Travis more than others to not have Grgs this year. Not to mention that last year for the first time he was getting some playing time and then a new coach comes in with a completely different philosophy. I think it takes Travis longer to adapt than others.

So I wouldn't rule out him becoming a pretty good player, but I don't think he'll ever be as good as I had hoped. I really wouldn't mind seeing him packaged with someone like Zach, Miles, or Theo if we get someone good back. I say trade him now, while his 'potential' may still lure other teams to take one of the three I just mentioned.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 04-14-2006, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zidane

I think law will become a role player he could be a good player.He needs confidence and i would be willing to give him a 2 year deal for around 450k a year or whatever the lowest he would take.

And then he'll laugh at you and accept millions of dollars elsewhere.

chromekilla · 04-14-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawse

And then he'll laugh at you and accept millions of dollars elsewhere.

Why would anyone pay him millions of dollars that is dumb.He is only worth around 1mil 500k a year if that.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 04-14-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zidane

Why would anyone pay him millions of dollars that is dumb.He is only worth around 1mil 500k a year if that.

He wouldn't get that. Ever.

He a 21 year old former first-rounder with incredible athleticism and a great attitude. Do some research on the kinds of contracts those kinds of guys have gotten over the years. Teams take flyers on guys like that. What had Gerald Wallace really proven before Charlotte resigned him to three years, $16.5 million? Travis isn't getting an MLE deal, but he also sure as hell won't get 900K over two years (which would be below the minimum salary) like you suggested.

**Tince** · 04-14-2006, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BrooklynBaller

I have. His name is Viktor Khryapa. Talk about a pathetic player. What exactly does Khryapa do on offense or defense that makes him so much more valuable than Outlaw? All I see is matador defense and a non-existent offensive game. Oh sure, Khryapa has a 'breakout' game every once in a while, but so does Travis.

Worst player in the NBA? Nah man, not even close to being the worst player on his team.

Even Outlaw fans probably wouldn't agree that he's better than Victor.

Defensively, Victor is 10x better than Travis, it's really not even comparable. The only aspect of defense Outlaw is even close to Victor would be shot blocking. I offense, neither of them impress me much. The major difference to me are that Outlaw has a much nicer looking jumper. On the other hand, Travis look completely lost within our offense and often is standing the wrong place, while Victor's basketball IQ is so much higher he'll often make plays by finding the right spot on the floor at the right time.

Outlaw still plays like a rookie, while Victor plays like the guy in his 3rd year.

**Tince** · 04-14-2006, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawse

Agreed. Khryapa is terrible.

I'm confident Nate would take Victor over Outlaw without even thinking twice about it.

zagsfan20 · 04-14-2006, 01:45 AM

I'm noticing a trend here...The only posters saying that Khryapa is worse than Outlaw are the one's who aren't Blazer fans and don't see him on a regular basis, every single game...

Khryapa by no means is a star, in fact I don't even think he's starter material...But I think he will be a career 6th man on some good teams...He's smart, hustles and does all the dirty work needed to win...Personally Viktor is one of my favorite Blazers as of right now...He's a breathe of fresh air on a team with a couple knuckleheads...

toutlaw25 · 04-14-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tince

I'm confident Nate would take Victor over Outlaw without even thinking twice about it.

That's not saying a whole lot. I'd ask if I could just blow my brains out instead of taking either one. They both suck.

handclap problematic · 04-14-2006, 01:53 AM

I am a fan of Travis and Viktor...
I still hold hope for Travis, but I wouldnt exactly bet money on his impovement.
I basically consider Viktor another Andres Nocioni. They are THE hustle guy on the team, who plays the right way and gets the job done. I fully expect Vik to get better as he ages...

Prunetang

ThatBlazerGuy · 04-14-2006, 01:56 AM

I used to be an Outlaw bandwagoneer, but their is NO way I would take him over Viktor. VK is one of my fovorite players. He hustles, can shoot a bit, can rebound a bit, can steal and block a bit and most of all plays as hard as he can on D. He is also a decent passer. He is a hustler, and we need a player like that to come off the bench as a 6th man much more than an athletic freak that has a low BBall IQ. I honestly think we should deal Travis while some teams still think he is still the next Darius Miles minus the attitude issues, we could get some real value.

handclap problematic · 04-14-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by toutlaw25

That's not saying a whole lot. I'd ask if I could just blow my brains out instead of taking either one. They both suck.

That is really quite hilarious given your damned screen name..... talk about an ironic post.
I feel saddened for your poor post, as it was doomed to failure before it was even conjured.

Prunetang

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