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04-25-2006, 06:45 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
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04-25-2006, 06:46 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
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proably like 50k they dont have big contracts over seas.We need to make sure he is nba ready not some nervous overseas player that we waste a pick on after seeing orlandos pick i just dont think i want to take a chance.
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sergei's buy-out was almost 500k...somehow I doubt that Bargani only has a 50K buy-out
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04-25-2006, 06:47 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
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So what's his buy-out situation like? Who owns him, and how long is he under contract over there? I don't remember off the top of my head who Orlando drafted last year in the lottery, but he decided to just go back overseas instead of coming to the States.
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No problems about that: Benetton Treviso is probably the most "NBA-friendly" team in Europe.
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04-25-2006, 08:11 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
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sergei's buy-out was almost 500k...somehow I doubt that Bargani only has a 50K buy-out
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MY bad i thought they had small salarys.
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04-25-2006, 09:08 PM
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still seems like a bit of a cop out there. He doesn't score much, because it's 'team orientated'..but he's the best young guy in the 2nd best league in the world!!!!!!!111!
well, that would seem to me that they're not as good as the NBA is (obviously) and that even in a "team orientated" system, he's not THAT great.
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Well, I wasn't trying to make an excuse for him not scoring much.
The point is the top scorer in the league only gets 18 points in about 30 minutes of play...
Extend that to an NBA go-to-guy and that would be something more like 24 ppg in about 40 minutes.
They still score less, but I don't see how balanced scoring makes the quality of play in the league poor... to me, it seems like it has a lot to do with a different style of play and culture even.
You seem a bit defensive about this, my friend... people just get excited and he looks like a solid prospect. Let's have fun! 
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04-25-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
I wouldn't want to use my top pick on the 3rd option on a Euroleague team...But thats just me...
His video's aren't anything to gush over IMO...
With that said, my draft wish-list order goes like this...
Morrison
Bargnani
Thomas
Aldridge
Carney
Gay and Noah don't impress me as a top 4 picks and Brandon Roy is a good solid player, but not a top 5 pick IMO...
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04-25-2006, 09:58 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
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You seem a bit defensive about this, my friend... people just get excited and he looks like a solid prospect. Let's have fun! |
not being defensive, it just seems that for all the flack people give Zagsfan for defending Morrison and his competition, it's rather funny to hear people coming up with all sorts of examples of how Bargani's stats are much more "real", despite being as flawed as his rationale is.
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04-25-2006, 10:37 PM
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I wouldn't want to use my top pick on the 3rd option on a Euroleague team...But thats just me...
His video's aren't anything to gush over IMO...
With that said, my draft wish-list order goes like this...
Morrison
Bargnani
Thomas
Aldridge
Carney
Gay and Noah don't impress me as a top 4 picks and Brandon Roy is a good solid player, but not a top 5 pick IMO...
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good post zags.I agree with that i just hope we get a sold player whomever we draft because we need a star or at least a solid player that cares.
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04-25-2006, 11:01 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
i see Andrea as a PF due to his highest likelihood of success there at the 4
Andrea due to his rare skill set and handle would pose far more problems as a 4...making his transition that much easier...
BUT without the addition of a post game then opposing teams will just put a SF on him who is more capable of defending out on the perimeter....
Best case scenario is Andrea adds one capable post move to use against smaller defenders (SF's)...and thus keeping bigger slower players on him and picking them apart with his jumper and handle....
short answer- Andrea will be an all star if he is at the 4....only solid player at the 3 (his biggest attributes being less substantial at the 3)
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04-25-2006, 11:15 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
John Nash said right now he's a PF with a chance to develope into a Center.
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04-25-2006, 11:30 PM
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Re: Bargnani = Euro League Rising Star
In that video with the offensive rebound and dunk .... he followed it up with a free throw. That's all I need to know.
Make him a Blazer!
Gotta love the hair, too. Our choices are a floppy mophead in Morrison, a mini mohawk in Bargnani or a ... well ... I don't know what you'd call Noah's poof (it looks like an afro's afro, I guess).
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04-26-2006, 01:03 AM
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John Nash said right now he's a PF with a chance to develope into a Center.
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A center with a diverse offensive game?
OK, now you are just making me all tingly! 
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04-26-2006, 04:09 AM
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John Nash said right now he's a PF with a chance to develope into a Center.
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No way... he'd be wasted talent as center. He wouldn't have enough strenght even if he bulks up.
He's a PF right now... for sure he can play some minutes at 3 or 5 spots (like Dirk) but not full time.
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04-26-2006, 04:31 AM
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