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Old 04-27-2006, 03:01 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:59 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Those pictures remind of last year when folks had pictures of Gerald Green wearing a Blazer jersey. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:11 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Those pictures remind of last year when folks had pictures of Gerald Green wearing a Blazer jersey. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
That was actually a preseason game from last season. He had 13 points and 5 boards.
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I remember seeing somthing about Barnani playing the Raptors last season for an exhibition game. Anyone have the boxscore? One tidbit I saw said he continually blew by Bosh.
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I remember seeing somthing about Barnani playing the Raptors last season for an exhibition game. Anyone have the boxscore? One tidbit I saw said he continually blew by Bosh.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/score...ORONTO---0.htm
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Thanks Samuel!

Bargnani didn't do to bad. He also had 2 blks. Pretty good for someone who just turned 19yrs old at the time.
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Thanks Samuel!

Bargnani didn't do to bad. He also had 2 blks. Pretty good for someone who just turned 19yrs old at the time.
Great find fellas I wasn't aware of this...nice to see some info on how he matches up against NBA players. Did any of you watch this game? I would be curious to hear how the Bargani vs. Bosh matchup went.

You say Bargani blew by Bosh a few times??
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Great find fellas I wasn't aware of this...nice to see some info on how he matches up against NBA players. Did any of you watch this game? I would be curious to hear how the Bargani vs. Bosh matchup went.

You say Bargani blew by Bosh a few times??
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his shot form seems even more awkward than Morrisons, and he's not terribly fast.

He still seems to just be a taller guy who's playing against shorter guys (and seemingly, sub-par defense). I just don't see why people are getting all that excited about him, more so than anyone else I mean.

his defense is better, but thats against sub-par competition (and smaller/weaker players).
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his shot form seems even more awkward than Morrisons, and he's not terribly fast.

He still seems to just be a taller guy who's playing against shorter guys (and seemingly, sub-par defense). I just don't see why people are getting all that excited about him, more so than anyone else I mean.

his defense is better, but thats against sub-par competition (and smaller/weaker players).
For a guy who's adopted the moniker "SMiLE", you sure are a gloomy cuss, Hap.

However, I do agree that the clips don't make him look super-special. That said, he's very mobile when you remember that he's 7 feet tall. And these aren't highschoolers he's playing against - they're grown men playing professionally. But I have a feeling he would have a much more gradual learning curve in the league - more Dirk Nowitzki than Pau Gasol. A lot of people would be complaining next year, even if he's eventually good.
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his shot form seems even more awkward than Morrisons, and he's not terribly fast.


C'mon, have you ever seen a 7'0" with a faster shooting release?!? A minimum of objectivity: his shot is fluid, quick and automatic... he's a guard rather than a power forward!

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his defense is better, but thats against sub-par competition (and smaller/weaker players).
Again?

sub-par competition?!? Man, that competition is tougher than NCAA... put that in your head...

and there are much more shorter guys in college basketball (where you can see often a 6-5 PF or a 6-6 C) than in Euroleague...
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He still seems to just be a taller guy who's playing against shorter guys (and seemingly, sub-par defense). I just don't see why people are getting all that excited about him, more so than anyone else I mean.
- Played over 60 games each year over the past two seasons.
- Is said to be closer to 250 than 220.
- Aggressive with the ball around the hoop
- Can hit free throws.
- Plays good defense against professionals, not high schoolers.
- He's 7 feet tall and has a consistent jumper.

Those things right there make him worth drafting if he's there, IMO. He has less question marks than Aldridge with just as much upside. Plus he might be able to play the 3 at times.

Portland will be bad next season but as Kevin Pritchard says, this draft is a "-7". He believes that the top player this season will be available at the #7 spot, well within our reach.
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C'mon, have you ever seen a 7'0" with a faster shooting release?!? A minimum of objectivity: his shot is fluid, quick and automatic... he's a guard rather than a power forward!
the same has been said about morrison, yet, his shot will be blocked. I don't see how 4 inches in height makes up THAT much difference.
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sub-par competition?!? Man, that competition is tougher than NCAA... put that in your head...
repeating that it's "tougher than NCAA" doesn't make it true. If it's tougher, why haven't there been many of their players who do good in the NBA then, compared to the # of college players?

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and there are much more shorter guys in college basketball (where you can see often a 6-5 PF or a 6-6 C) than in Euroleague...
you see players that small in the lower division teams, not division 1.

I think his hype is being blown up BECAUSE he's european (just as morrisons is because he's 'local').

they aren't enough different for people to be "we HAVE to get one" vs the other
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