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Old 05-24-2006, 02:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: For the Blazers? MORRISON

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umm, no....

He was a very good defender in college from what I saw, and from what I've read is expected to be good in the NBA as well. He's no Rudy Gay on the defensive end, but he's closer to Gay and Morrison is to him.
here is what nbadraft says about Roys defense. It would seem they don't agree with you.

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Weaknesses: Does everything very well but nothing out of this world ... On the small side. Lacks tremendous size and length at just 6-5 and average wing span ... A good athlete, but nothing extraordinary. Not a great leaper or thunderous dunker ... Lacks great body strength. His body is solid but not overpowering ... Foot speed and quickness is strong but wont stand out on the next level ... Defensively he is just average giving solid effort, but lacks the foot speed to be a lock down defender ...
sounds like he's not the great defender people make him out to be.
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Old 05-24-2006, 02:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: For the Blazers? MORRISON

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umm, no....

He was a very good defender in college from what I saw, and from what I've read is expected to be good in the NBA as well. He's no Rudy Gay on the defensive end, but he's closer to Gay and Morrison is to him.

Actually here is what NBADraft.net has to say about Roy


Weaknesses: Does everything very well but nothing out of this world ... On the small side. Lacks tremendous size and length at just 6-5 and average wing span ... A good athlete, but nothing extraordinary. Not a great leaper or thunderous dunker ... Lacks great body strength. His body is solid but not overpowering ... Foot speed and quickness is strong but wont stand out on the next level ... Defensively he is just average giving solid effort, but lacks the foot speed to be a lock down defender ...
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Re: For the Blazers? MORRISON

SMiLE hit the nail on the head... give me a break... Donleavy didn't have near the credentials in college. Won't ever get better... bah! Blazed, if he outscores his man ever night I could care less about his D. Would you have rather had Morrison be stone cold rather than an outburst at the end of the UCLA game Blazed? Like... too cool to play D... too cool to care about the game... we certainly see a lot of that in the NBA now don't we. Potential means SQUAT... it is what you do on the court that counts. Explain how is it that Morrison played against other top college competition and still outscored them and led his team with considerably less talent so far in the tourney? I see Morrison as a Ginobli type player... and he manages to do pretty well for himself.
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here is what nbadraft says about Roys defense. It would seem they don't agree with you.
Here's what Draftexpress.com has to say about Roy's defense...


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On defense, we see this same versatility. Roy has guarded four positions very effectively throughout his career, and is just as comfortable checking a point guard as he is a wing. His most notable defensive exploit this season was probably locking up UCLA PG Jordan Farmar, forcing the sophomore into one of his worst games of the season (2-13 shooting, 7 TO's).
In the weakiness section there isn't one mention on his defense.

If the biggest knock you're going to find on Roy's defense is that he's average and not a "lock down" defender, that's not horrible, and it's certainly better than Morrison.

Back to point that Nate likes good defenders, I would think he would rate the prospects; Gay, Roy, Morrison, in that order.
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Re: For the Blazers? MORRISON

It seems to me that a SF needs good defensive skills but a SG can get by with lessas long as he rings the bell.
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It seems to me that a SF needs good defensive skills but a SG can get by with lessas long as he rings the bell.
Then we should just stick with Dixon...yikes!
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Re: For the Blazers? MORRISON

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Here's what Draftexpress.com has to say about Roy's defense...

In the weakiness section there isn't one mention on his defense.

If the biggest knock you're going to find on Roy's defense is that he's average and not a "lock down" defender, that's not horrible, and it's certainly better than Morrison.

Back to point that Nate likes good defenders, I would think he would rate the prospects; Gay, Roy, Morrison, in that order.
Nate can like defenders all he wants. We still need someone who can score and spread the offense. defenders (and team defense improvement, which is more important than 1 player being good defensively) can come later.
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Do you know what an extreme health risk Morrison's diabetes are? Do you know much about diabetes at all? Do you know how many successful professional athletes have diabetes?
Chris Dudley
Hall of famer Jim "Catfish" Hunter
Larry Stewart
Ty Cobb (an SOB but a player)
Arthur Ashe
Joe Frazier
GAay Hall, Jr (Olympic swimming gold medalist)
Mike Echols, Mike Sinclair, Jay Leeuwenburg (NFL players)
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Chris Jarvis, Olympic rower
Jason Johnson, Detroit Tigers
Kendall Simmons, Steelers lineman
Missy Foy, marathon runner
Nick Boynton, Boston Bruins
Bobby Clark, Philly FLyers
James "Buster" Douglas
Kris Freeman, Olympic skier
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Jackie Robinson
Sugar Ray Robinson
Ron Santo
Sherri Turner, LPGA

Have I made my point?

Let's discuss Morrison's game, OK?
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If POR mgmt allowed Nate to talk them into taking Roy over Morrison then they deserve to get fired...

Roy is obviosuly a better defender,,,but Morrison is 3x...the offensive force that Roy is and Morrison's game will translate a heck of a lot better into the NBA than Roy's will...
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Then we should just stick with Dixon...yikes!
Has Dixon ever put up big numbers?
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Nate can like defenders all he wants. We still need someone who can score and spread the offense. defenders (and team defense improvement, which is more important than 1 player being good defensively) can come later.
Back to this age old debate, eh?

We need more rebounders and people who play defense. Offense will come naturally when the defense and especially the rebounding tighten up some. We are consistently taxing Theo and Joel to provide emergency defense and we'd be lucky to out-rebound a group of slightly intoxicated Scottish nuns.
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Every 5th game...

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Chris Dudley
Hall of famer Jim "Catfish" Hunter
Larry Stewart
Ty Cobb (an SOB but a player)
Arthur Ashe
Joe Frazier
GAay Hall, Jr (Olympic swimming gold medalist)
Mike Echols, Mike Sinclair, Jay Leeuwenburg (NFL players)
Female Triathlete Shannon Standridge
Chris Jarvis, Olympic rower
Jason Johnson, Detroit Tigers
Kendall Simmons, Steelers lineman
Missy Foy, marathon runner
Nick Boynton, Boston Bruins
Bobby Clark, Philly FLyers
James "Buster" Douglas
Kris Freeman, Olympic skier
Billie Jean King
Jackie Robinson
Sugar Ray Robinson
Ron Santo
Sherri Turner, LPGA

Have I made my point?

Let's discuss Morrison's game, OK?
I don't know much about diabetes, but I have heard other analyst raise this as a concerning issue. Apparently there are different levels of diabetes and Morrison is a type I diabetic? It appears there have been many other athletes with diabetes, but how many of those had to inject insulin while competing?

Maybe modern medicine makes this a non-issue, but it is not just on this board that Morrison's diabetes has been raised as a concern.
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