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Old 05-24-2006, 05:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Blazers post first interview transcript - Oregonian responds

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Glad to.

First, I judge that you, Jason Quick, and The Oregonian have an agenda against the (Blazers) organization. Of that there can be no doubt.

Second, I judge that the misquote was an honest, "rookie" mistake. Mistakes happen in transcribing all the time.

Third, I judge that your reaction to a transcribing error is amazingly overblown, petty and especially, HYPOCRITICAL. Don't try to claim you've never misstated or misquoted or misrepresented anything in your reporting. Absurd.

Your sentence, Mr. Quick, shall be that you shall never again write about my beloved Blazers.

Case dismissed.
I was with you until you dismissed the case.
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Blazers post first interview transcript - Oregonian responds

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Why anyone would give Quick the benefit of the doubt is bewyond me. He can't even recollect the facts correctly.

I still don't get what Quick is yapping about.

Patterson said certain attacks on Allen were unfair. Quick disagreed. Where's the problem? What is there to give him the benefit of the doubt about?
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I think I'm going to side with Quick on this one. I would give the Blazers the benefit of the doubt had this not happened before with the Paul Allen interview they conveniently cut certain parts out of before posting on the website.
That doesn't make much sense, Pop. Did the Blazers claim they were posting the complete transcript of the Allen interview? If they did I missed it. It isn't unethical to edit an interview - after all, isn't that what your boy Quick does with every single interview?

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Re: Blazers post first interview transcript - Oregonian responds

Blazers just posted retraction regarding Quick's interview with Patterson ...
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Yeah the blazers worked out justin williams from wyoming that is very good.
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Blazers just posted retraction regarding Quick's interview with Patterson ...
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Blazers just posted retraction regarding Quick's interview with Patterson ...
if anything, the blazers posted a comment retracting Patterson saying "man, the oregonian ****ing blows"

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No they didn't
actually, Steve C is correct.

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**We have corrected this transcript following an initial error in understanding. Due to tape quality, and after listening to reporter Jason Quick's own tape of the interview, we made a mistake when we first posted this item. At minute 22:30, we misheard reporter Quick's reply to Steve Patterson in his depiction of what he was trying to accomplish with that particular line of questioning. We have changed that sentence.
imagine that, someone admitting a mistake and owning up to it...

canzano (and quick to a lesser degree) could learn something from that.
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That doesn't make much sense, Pop. Did the Blazers claim they were posting the complete transcript of the Allen interview? If they did I missed it. It isn't unethical to edit an interview - after all, isn't that what your boy Quick does with every single interview?

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I believe what Pop is getting at is that they said they were going to publish complete transcripts of every interview in order to present every side and the full story. That way,they said, people could see the context in which things were being asked and said. But then with Paul Allen they convienently left certain portions out they may have cast an unfavorable light on things. It's like two little schoolgirls pulling pigtails back and forth.

For all the people who don't like Qanzanko, I still don't understand how they could give the Blazers any more benefit of the doubt. Both sides are aching to make this Portland's 2nd Superfund cleanup site.
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I believe what Pop is getting at is that they said they were going to publish complete transcripts of every interview in order to present every side and the full story. That way,they said, people could see the context in which things were being asked and said. But then with Paul Allen they convienently left certain portions out they may have cast an unfavorable light on things. It's like two little schoolgirls pulling pigtails back and forth.
And my point was, they put the Allen interview up BEFORE they announced the new policy.
If they'd posted it AFTER they announced the new policy, I think Pop would have a point. Although kind of a weak one, because the point of posting the transcripts, after all, is to keep the Oregonian from lying, not to fully disclose every word that anyone connected with the Blazers might utter.

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My major problem is Quick's agenda. You can see it clearly because he keeps coming back to it. Jason's contention is this: the Blazers have cut a lot of good players without cutting a lot of salary. That's why he makes such a big deal out of the $72 million vs. the $105 million. But he oversteps himself with this:

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So, it’s at 72, three years later you’re at 60. So you’ve cut 12 million dollars in salary. You’ve done that with getting rid of Bonzi Wells, Rasheed Wallace, Jeff McInnis, Dale Davis, Ruben Patterson, Eddie Gill, Wesley Person, Shareef, Van Exel, DA, Sabonis, Dickau, Stoudamire and Pip. All those players. And what you have left to show for it is Viktor Khryapa, Brian Skinner, and Darius Miles. That’s it. Do you think that is adequate?
WRONG! #1, you can't claim both $72 million and the cutting of Pippen and Sabonis. If you want to claim cutting them, you have to use the $105 million figure.

#2, you can't say that the only replacements are Khryapa, Skinner and Miles. What about Ratliff who came over in the Sheed trade? What about Dixon and Blake who were signed as free agents? If you kept Quick's list, you have no room for them. You also do not have room for other draft picks such as Telfair, Webster and Jack. Sorry, Jason, but the NBA only allows 15 players on the roster....to make room for new players, you have to let the old ones go.

Finally, Quick is the biggest hypocrite in the world with this question:

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Are you satisfied with what you got in return for Rasheed?
Oooooo, how I wish the search function was working so I could go back and find a particular thread where I discussed this issue right before Sheed was traded. Just over two years ago, Quick said in one of his chats that ANY trade for Rasheed would be a good one. No qualifier, just a blanket statement that to get ANYTHING back in exchange for Rasheed would be beneficial. But now, he gets to play Monday morning quarterback with Patterson and insinuate that the team didn't get enough back in exchange??????

Patterson needs to be held responsible for being in charge while the Blazers have dropped in the standings. But Quick comes across like he has a vendetta. That's not good journalism in my book.
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Exactly right, Storyteller.

Quick spent quite a bit of time arguing with Patterson about the salary figures, and in true form conveniently misrepresented the facts and misused the (wrong) numbers.

But the part that frosted me the most was attacking Patterson for having done exactly what Quick himself had lobbied relentlessly for the Blazers to do.

Quick = Lying Hypocrite.
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You guys are ridiculous. Where are the black helicopters? The men in dark sunglasses?

Seriously - what benefit does The Oregonian have to undermine the Blazers? I think you guys are just blaming the media for what amounts to some pretty obvious mismanagement of the organization. As soon as the Blazers start winning and stop doing stupid things, the media won't report on the crap anymore.

It's really interesting to me, because most of the people on this board strike me as fairly practical individuals. Sure, we have our own opinions that sometimes clash, but most of you seem to evaluate things on a pretty level-headed basis. But when it comes to The Oregonian and the Blazers, some of you suddenly turn into biased homers. "Oh, those hacks are just out to get the Blazers, blah blah blah."

Yeah - you're right - the Blazers have done nothing at all to warrant any criticism. Everything's hunky dory over at One Center Court.

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