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Originally Posted by Spud147
Specifically these kinds of statements are what I’m referring to. And what way do we post on ESPN that wouldn’t be okay here?
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well, unless the mods there are just non existent, Ive seen more swearing, more rude and offensive stuff there.
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The reality is there are idiots on any board you could go to (including this one). You are stereo-typing people migrating over from those boards when most of those people’s posts (ESPN board specifically, I haven’t looked at O-live much but I bet there are great posters over there too) were just as valuable as the ones posted here.
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if you haven't gone to olive much, than you're kind of missing the point of the comment in the first place.
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What if an oldie or mod shows they’re a loud mouthed boor in response to a “newbie’s” first few posts? Is that anymore acceptable?
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thats the whole point of me pointing out that we know each others buttons, and personalities.
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I can tell you I was a lurker (just reading) for about 6 or so months before I ever posted because I wanted to get the flow of the board and respected the opinions of the posters. I was attempting to get the lay of the land before I “totally made a bad first impression”. I finally started to slowly post when I felt like I could “fit in”. It didn’t go well right off the bat. I know I’m not the only one.
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since I don't remember your first post, it might be dependant on what it was as to why it went over in the manner you're saying it did.
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I believe the remark about “a vocal minority who complain about these kinds of posts” was directed right at me personally. You imply my opinion isn’t valid because I’m part of (what you assume to be) a small group of people who are just loud.
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no it wasn't directed at you. again, don't assume that because it's said in a post, it's about you, even if it's in a post in response to you.
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I haven’t seen many posters (except for another mod) jump in to vocally support what you say either. In fact, there has been more “vocal support” for what I’ve been saying (by the way, thanks for trying to help me out ESPN buddies, you rock as always).
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there have been people in this thread who basically said what I said. including a cm. RHNR, BNB, minstrel, wastro and mgb to name a few. not including the PM's that I've gotten from people talking about how some new members were posting several posts about the same subject.
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See above about my lengthy waiting period and attempt to do this… it didn’t help.
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it could also be your personality. you making this into more than it really is, doesn't help.
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It was not you… you’re just the latest in a string of posters I’ve interacted with who appear to enjoy bullying people.
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don't confusing bullying with point by point counter responses. I don't tell people what to say, or what to think. Don't get hurt because people respond back to what someone says, especially if it's hairbrained (and just so you dont think I'm talking about what you've said,
I'm not talking about you).
I don't know if defending what I said is really "bullying".
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You can’t help but take things personally when you come here thinking we’re all Blazer fans, this will be great! Then get responses to the most seemingly innocuous comments you made which are just downright rude.
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thats an odd way to think about it. I don't come here thinking this will be great. Just because we're blazer fans doesn't mean we're all going to get along, agree, or even have the same methods of discussion regarding how we argue.
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I was so excited to start discussing the Blazers with you guys at first and came away thinking, “Whoa, what did I do to deserve that?” And I have seen several other posters who came after me get the same kind of attitude.
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as I said earlier, most of us don't respond to posters based on their # of posts (altho some do) but what they said.
if someone says something that's different from the 'norm', regardless of their post total or "time being here" (as being an old timer doesn't necessarily mean how long you've been here) it's going to be talked about.
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Do you truly believe when I referred to myself I was being literal about that? Seriously? Are you trying to be obtuse or are you really honestly confused about how I phrased that? I was just referring to myself in a general sense as part of a newer group of posters just trying to enjoy chatting with other Blazer fans.
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don't try to speak for others when you're not doing what is being referenced then. If you had been doing what you defended, that's one thing. But when you're defending something you haven't done, and then tried to make it into something completely different (your experiences have nothing to do with the "guidelines" set out in the initial post), that's looking for a fight.
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So what if I made up the term “inappropriate newbie”, what’s your point? I’m saying when I started posting I got piled by the “oldies controlling what the board says” on more than one occasion for what were apparently unacceptable posts.
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you ever think it might've been WHAT you said, and not how you said it? I just skimmed through your first 120+ posts, and no one "piled" on you. infact, in most cases you were treated no different than anyone else.
Infact, you yourself said the following:
seems kind of odd to say, over 100 posts in, that everyone is well behaved and polite, and don't venture off inappropriately off topic, if we're piling on you.
btw, thats
the closest you came to being piled on in the first 120+ posts you made
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I do consider myself a newbie even though I’ve been signed up for almost a year because I haven’t posted a great deal and am still trying to figure out how to communicate with some of the people here. So far I’m not doing so well. I was chastised repeatedly for responses that some oldies seemed to consider inappropriate when I came to them very respectfully and tried to “fit in”.
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in the "fingers crossed" threads, you over-reacted to talkhards response to you, and myelfboys response to you
seen here
I can see that the exchange between you and masbee in the
thread here might seem like masbee is picking on you, but it wasn't done because you were (relatively) new.
that was a content based thing, and tame at that.
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Of course my use of the word regime wasn’t an accident… I’ll take ownership of that one, it was completely on purpose and my opinion hasn’t changed. You came across as a dictator who was trying to control how the newbies expressed themselves.
I know you’re trying to help me out here but I’m lacking in computer skills and don’t really understand what you mean about changing pages every 10 posts. Does it make it easier to read or navigate?
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nope, because when you have 5 threads on Branden Roy, sometimes it's confusing (at least, thats the stance bbb.net takes) and clogs things up. it's one of the reasons why Oregonlive is so hard to read. If every post was a new one, a lot of good posts/discussions would be dumped waaaay down the list.
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Anywho, am I wrong for thinking you’re an attorney?
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nope, ed is the one who has the law degree.
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I’ve got to admit I actually enjoyed arguing with you… I didn’t set out to make you mad, we just seemed to get a good point/counterpoint thing going and it was kind of fun so I stuck with it. And before you say it… That is not, in any way, meant to be an apology for what I said. I’m just saying that even though we are on opposite ends of this argument I got a kick out of the debating. I’m happy to agree to disagree and I’ll keep trying to figure out how this board works.
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same here. one thing people might not understand about me (and ed and minstrel too)...in 15 minutes if you make another post (that's not baiting..not that you do, I mean you universally) I'll respond forgetting that we had this long winded debate over trivial things.
if you saw all of the novels that ed and I have written together, and then see how we can still joke with each other, you'll see what i mean.
once I log off, I tend to forget what people say unless they remind me.
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