hasoos

Make it Darius and pull the trigger.

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Reep

Assume for a second that Bargnani is not what Toronto is looking for, and they want to improve their backcourt, then Blazers could pick Bargnani or Aldridge. My thinking is that if Bargnani or Aldridge appear to be the real deal in workouts/evaluation, then giving up Telfair or Jack would be worth it. If Bargnani and Aldridge both appear to be no more than solid position players, then it would not be worth it to me.

Fork

That's ridiculous.

Jack plus the 4 for the #1 pick? If we do that trade, it's so we can get Bargnani, which defeats the purpose of Toronto trading down. We can still get a player we want at #4. There's zero reason to trade up to #1.

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Minstrel

I wouldn't do it. It's arguable how much value difference there is between the #1 and #4 pick this season. It's certainly not worth Jack, a guy who could be a top reserve in the NBA, to move up.

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POzers

If the Blazers could dump Miles on them and receive contracts in there last year like Mo Pete and Bonner then it might be a good cost cutting move. Then the Blazers could package that #1 pick with Zach in order to obtain a solid veteran player which Nate has said they really need.

But how could Toronto get a guarantee that Bargnani would not get drafted prior to #4? Unless, they can get Bargnani to refuse to play with anybody other than Toronto which might scare everyone else off.

All of these scenarios are highly unlikely so it just does not make sense.

MVP_23

Toronto 1st Pick for Your Pick at 4, and Sebastian Telfair

BBert

That's funny, we were just discussing something very similar to this. I voted no.

Or should I say, no way in hell?

Or perhaps,

Are you a Raps fan?

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CrookedJ

My thoughts as a T.O. fan - if Collangelo continues to hype up Bargnani, and then offers to trade down its cuz we'd rather take someone else, and he was trying to sell Bargnani as the #1 guy in the draft; the one that its worth trading up for.

If Portland wants Morrison, trading up is good, as its quite likely Charlotte takes him at #3. Not sure how much Nash wants Morrison, but that seems to be the feeling in other parts of the NBA.

Mo Pete is unlikely to get traded. At this point (season is still months away) he is our backcourt, and he is our veteran leader. Its really hard to speculate what Collangelo will do, and which way he wants this team to go. He has talked several times about needing the right mix of young players and vets. Currently Mo is the only decent vet we have, and there are a ton of young guys on the team.

I'd go for a Jack & #4 for #1 from the Raps perspective.

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Oil Can

Portland will not trade Telfair and 4 for pick one. That is hugely overvaluing the pick in this years draft.

If it was next year and Oden was coming out, then yes!

Jack-maybe, and thats a big maybe. Steve Blake and the #4 is a probably.

Juan Dixon is a certainty! How about that trade?

BBert

I'll give you Juan AND Blake. You'll like Blake (I'm not kidding).

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Fork

Why? We can stay at 4 and still get the guy Portland wants.

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merge police please

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Sambonius

I'm content with keeping the 4th and taking either Gay, Bargnani, or Morrison.

icehawk

As a Raptor fan, I would say no to this trade.

While we need help at the PG position, there's no point in acquiring another backup-quality point. We already have Jose Calderon who is just as good. I'm sure we can find a backup-quality point through free agency or a minor trade without including our first in a trade-down.

Having two other point guards around his calibre on their team, I don't see why this is even a question for Portland fans. The shot at LaMarcus Aldridge to replace Randolph is worth it.

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BBert

Any of those three will be SWEET!

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