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Old 06-05-2006, 11:58 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I haven't researched all the moves that went down during his era as the Rockets GM, but I believe he can claim drafting Horry and Cassell and winning an NBA championship. Thats hardly no success on the player personel side.

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Patterson left the Rockets a year prior to their first championship. He didn't draft Horry either although I'm not certain about Cassell. He went from being a GM with the Rockets to being GM of the Houston Aeros of the IHA. Not exactly a lateral move in my opinion. The guy hasn't been involved with NBA player personnel issues in 13 years. I've met him and I have zero confidence in him.
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I haven't researched all the moves that went down during his era as the Rockets GM, but I believe he can claim drafting Horry and Cassell and winning an NBA championship. Thats hardly no success on the player personel side.

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I've got nothing but my memory to go back on this, but I thought Rudy T had a heavy hand in selecting both those players. If this were true, it's a positive. Patterson uses the bright minds he has around him, as he should. I think he's done that with Pritchard and Nash on key matters during his tenure.

I do believe he orchestrated the Thorpe/Drexler trade though.
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t;ong is there anyone you actually like? seriously
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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t;ong is there anyone you actually like? seriously
Not really anyone on the Blazers management team although I would give Pritchard a shot at proving himself. I don't have much appreciation for the management team that has made the Blazers the worst team in the NBA. I do like Nate McMillan though. If we can get some decent players for him to coach the team will improve.
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SP was the Rocket's GM from 1989-1993...

http://portland.bizjournals.com/port...6/daily31.html

So you are right about him not being a part of the back to back championships in 1994 and 1995, but as their GM he did attain most of those players during that time including drafting Robert Horry in 1992. I'm not sure whether his GMing days were over prior to the selection of Sam in 1993. It also places him outside the loop of orchestrating the 1995 trade of Drexler and Thorp. Going by his recent quote about concensus building within the front office being a part of how the Rockets (and other NBA franchises) did business, he only warrents partial credit/blame for their moves whether he was the GM or President.

Doing a little more digging into those past drafts that he presided over (and who really knows, maybe the Rockets meddling owner made all the actual selections), here's a quick year by year recount of their drafts during those years.

1993 #24 Sam Cassell... players of note drafted after him... #37 Nick Van Exel #45 Byran Russell

1992 #11 Robert Horry others... #17 Doug Christy #24 Latrell Sprewell

1991 #20 John Turner others... #24 Rick Fox #45 Bobby Phills

1989 the Rockets didn't have a pick.

Seems pretty decent to me he didn't wiff on any super talents and made some solid choices too. It reads better then Nash's draft history.

http://www.nba.com/rockets/history/history.html#15

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SP was the Rocket's GM from 1989-1993...

http://portland.bizjournals.com/port...6/daily31.html

So you are right about him not being a part of the back to back championships in 1994 and 1995, but as their GM he did attain most of those players during that time including drafting Robert Horry in 1992. I'm not sure whether his GMing days were over prior to the selection of Sam in 1993. It also places him outside the loop of orchestrating the 1995 trade of Drexler and Thorp. Going by his recent quote about concensus building within the front office being a part of how the Rockets (and other NBA franchises) did business, he only warrents partial credit/blame for their moves whether he was the GM or President.

Doing a little more digging into those past drafts that he presided over (and who really knows, maybe the Rockets meddling owner made all the actual selections), here's a quick year by year recount of their drafts during those years.

1993 #24 Sam Cassell... players of note drafted after him... #37 Nick Van Exel #45 Byran Russell

1992 #11 Robert Horry others... #17 Doug Christy #24 Latrell Sprewell

1991 #20 John Turner others... #24 Rick Fox #45 Bobby Phills

1989 the Rockets didn't have a pick.

Seems pretty decent to me he didn't wiff on any super talents and made some solid choices too. It reads better then Nash's draft history.

http://www.nba.com/rockets/history/history.html#15

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Thanks for the digging. For some reason I thought Horry was a rookie during Houston's first championship. My bad.
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The real question is how much input will Nate, Pritchard, and oh yeah...that other guy Allen have. Who does Patterson listen too and better yet, who is really gonna make the decision. Speculating about this management team is like pondering the abyss...
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