Blazer Maven

Now that the measurements have been completed, I hope the controversy regarding Roy, Martell and Morrison is over.

Morrison is not "a big". In fact he is basically the same size as Roy, and with Roy's advantage in vertical jump taken into account, there is virtually no difference in terms of size.

There is no reason why Martell, who is the same size as Morrison, cannot slide over to the 3, if the Blazers draft Roy.

Roy is a versatile player who should be able to play 1, 2 and 3 at times, the way some envisioned Miles being used. Roy's defense at the 2 will be better than what Morrison could be expected to deliver, and his ability to create will benefit Martell, Joel and Zach, who will receive the ball in better position to score.

Need I say it: Roy for ROY 2006-07!!

Bring on the workout!!!

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wastro

I think it's hard to compare Roy and Morrison - two different positions, two different purposes on the floor.

Morrison gets the ball and creates his own shot. Roy is a floor general who can pick up slack for his teammates.

But I think both fill the team's needs and would be able to contribute right away.

zagsfan20

Measurements don't decide who is a better player, performances do.

Morrison is still better than Roy.

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I get that Roy isn't exactly small, though he has run the point some. He seems to me to be a 2 guard who can play the point some, and maaaaybe in a pinch play some SF. Morrison seems clearly to be SF, with at least some ability to swing to SG or maaaaybe PF.

What I'm getting at is that, with Roy on the team, it seems like Webster would then be slotted to spend a lot of time at SF, where as if it's Morrison, Webster's looking at playing SG more.

If Webster really can guard NBA 2 guards, it seems to me having him play SF would be something of a waste -- he could be much more devastating on offense if he's being defended by guys around 6'5" or 6'6" than if he's covered by guys 6'7" and up. If, otoh, Nate and company are getting clear that Webster probably doesn't have the wheels to keep up with NBA SGs, then Roy starts to make a little more sense to me.

That said, if the Blazers are actually in a position of choosing between Roy and Morrison, I'm sorry but they've got to take Morrison, even if they then work a trade out later. There are guys in this draft who could llegitimately be argued to be equal or better than Morrison in skill, talent, and value. I don't believe Roy is one of them.

wastro

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Seems like Nate's made it clear that Webster is a shooting guard. And I really doubt that Portland will have a choice of Morrison or Roy. IF they do, Morrison all the way. But with Roy looking likely, who knows how that situation will play itself out next season.

sabas4mvp

boo roy, yay morrison

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GOD

the funny think is that Roy and Morrison would probably play great together and really compl ment eachother. more so then Martel would be a goot fit for either one.
I would select morrison and if not him, the Gay, who is a true SF and would play great with Martel.

The truth of the matter is that although I want Morrison at the moment, I just don't see enough of a difference in skill/ability/heart/etc between Roy, Morrison, or Gay that I would be unhappy with any of those three.

And by the way, Roy not only played PG SG and SF for the Huskies, but he even played a little PF in a couple of games.

mediocre man

How about we simply decide who to pick beatween them based on their college careers. Morrison was great all 3 years, while Roy was good 1 year. Morrison has more drive than any player in this draft. He patterned himself after one of the greatest players of all time and that is just something that shouldn't be ignored.

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hasoos

Exactly which players out there don't think they are molding themselves after some superstar? If we were drafting on that we would have to pick everybody in the friggin draft.

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crandc

The Sporting News is reporting that the Bulls are impressed with Roy.
Of course, who loves whom is changing about every 10 minutes.

mediocre man

Not true really. You hear a lot of athletes say they want to be compared to themselves. Morrison has flat out said Larry Legend is his idol and he patterned his game after him. He said if he ends up being a poor man's Larry Bird he would be exstatic because he thinks that highly of the man.

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yakbladder

Yes, because all college players match their college careers into the NBA perfectly, regardless of skills, height, etc. And, heck, we should definitely look at taking someone in the future who was awesome their freshman and sophomore year but sucked it up their junior and senior years because, hey, they had some really great years in college. Your rationale makes zero sense.

In terms of growth as a basketball player, it's all about "what have you done for me lately", your physical stats, and your talent, not necessarily in that order.

yakbladder

This is even more ridiculous than you earlier comment about college stats. So because Morrison has come out and publicly said he wants to be like Larry Bird he's either A) going to become Larry Bird or B) play exactly like Bird? Incredible. Once I heard Roy say he modeled his game after Michael Jordan, so we should draft him. And Aldrige said he wants to be like Wilt Chamberlin. And Gay said he wanted to be...

Come on MM, we all know you like Morrison. But don't delve down the path of certain zags and start spouting off comments that are unrealistic and a bigger stretch than trying to walk across tips of the Andes.

Ed O

Roy's year this year was just as good--and probably better--than Morrison's. He had almost the same points per shot (1.5 to 1.48 in favor of Morrison). He had over twice the assist/TO ratio (1.8 to 0.76). He outrebounded Morrison 5.6 to 5.5 in spite of playing significantly fewer minutes a game. And defensively, it wasn't even close, of course.

Calling Roy's year "good" while saying Morrison had three "great" years is a joke.

Looking at the 5 years combined, I think that Roy's senior year was best, then Morrison's junior year, and then Roy's junior year (when he shot 56.5% from the field and got 5 rebounds a game in only 24 minutes).

And, in case people don't remember, there's no age difference here. Roy is 4 days younger than Morrison.

Absolutely it should. Who gives a crap whether he patterned himself after Larry Bird or Pervis Ellison? It's about how he plays, not how he talks or who he liked as a kid.

Ed O.