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Old 06-15-2006, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why not be objective?

It seems like every piece of information that comes out regarding the draft hopefuls, especially Morrison, is turned around to prove ones point instead just discussing the information, whatever it is. All this spinning is making me dizzy.

Or am I the only on who is more interested in an honest evaluation of the talent instead of defending MY player. Think about this, is there any information that could sway your opinion? If not, then there is no need to be here. just go root for your player.

I am just so tired of so many closed minded posts.
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Old 06-15-2006, 06:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Why not be objective?

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It seems like every piece of information that comes out regarding the draft hopefuls, especially Morrison, is turned around to prove ones point instead just discussing the information, whatever it is. All this spinning is making me dizzy.

Or am I the only on who is more interested in an honest evaluation of the talent instead of defending MY player. Think about this, is there any information that could sway your opinion? If not, then there is no need to be here. just go root for your player.

I am just so tired of so many closed minded posts.
one of the main reasons I've been tuning in less and less of late (besides my new jobber) is the lengths some go to to defend their guy at all costs... even when it's clear that they don't really know that much about their guy. I'd much rather be part of a discussion site then a one that just trades insults and bluster. I'd rather learn something then just spout my opinions

cheers to you for saying this tylo

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Old 06-15-2006, 07:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Why not be objective?

I just take it for granted some are going to push one player or another. Why let it bother you? Recently I've been mainly for Morrison, I just feel he may turn out to be very special and would hate us to miss out if we can get him, but I'm certainly willing to change my mind. This draft is just so hard to get a handle on which I think is the reason there are so many people that settle into one group or another because they have ties with a player and you can't say no way like some drafts if you know what I mean.
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Old 06-15-2006, 07:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Why not be objective?

I dont mind if you are for one player or another, it's when people wear blinders or try to spin new information to support their player. If Player x is really that good then support your position with facts instead of by spinning. When quicks workout blog was posted, not one Morrison supporter said, "well, sounds like gay really got the better of Morrison" and not one anti-Morrison person said "I don't buy it cause it came from quick. "

It's like in politics when there is a nonpartison issue but all the dems take one side and all the repubs take the other side just so they can argue.
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Why not be objective?

What I notice more was people jumping in and saying well this means we shouldn't get Morrison. I thought it was funny people would take one workout and judge by that. But that is exactly what you are complaining about. Obviously anyone that did that wasn't for Morrison in the first place.
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What I notice more was people jumping in and saying well this means we shouldn't get Morrison. I thought it was funny people would take one workout and judge by that. But that is exactly what you are complaining about. Obviously anyone that did that wasn't for Morrison in the first place.
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If he had said something negative directed at Morrison would you have embraced him or evaluated it for how accurate it was?

I'm seeing more and more of what thylo has brought up, and I can't wait for the draft to be over.
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Re: Why not be objective?

i posted about this in another thread

people need to relax all fighting and the like stems from we suck we have sucked and will suck with no hope, so people latch onto a player with pies in their eyes thinking that said player will lead to great stuff but it is just setting us up for failure. i was one of the bluefaced backers but I slowly realize its not really that important to fight about it. No amount of whining. crying, moaning...etc will ever change which pick they make.

everyone breath do some yoga and relax less than 2 weeks we will have our player(s).

I am more interested in what they do with miles, 30th, and 31st draft picks than who they pick a 4.
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Old 06-16-2006, 12:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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What I notice more was people jumping in and saying well this means we shouldn't get Morrison. I thought it was funny people would take one workout and judge by that. But that is exactly what you are complaining about. Obviously anyone that did that wasn't for Morrison in the first place.
Your point is a valid one, but doesn't hold true for me or a lot of other posters on this board. I was saying weeks ago that I thought Gay would be a better pick, so for Gay to outplay Morrison in a workout doesn't surprise me. I've said all along I think Gay has a very good chance of being the best player in this draft and is most likely to become a superstar in this league.

Sadly, if these guys work out against each other for another team, it's very probably Gay will get picked before Morrison. I'll be happy if we get Morrison, but more happy if we get Gay, and I've had this stance since our pick was announced.

I don't think there is anything wrong with posters who have supported Gay to point to this workout and add it to evidence for why we should pick Gay if he's on the board.
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Your point is a valid one, but doesn't hold true for me or a lot of other posters on this board. I was saying weeks ago that I thought Gay would be a better pick, so for Gay to outplay Morrison in a workout doesn't surprise me. I've said all along I think Gay has a very good chance of being the best player in this draft and is most likely to become a superstar in this league.

Sadly, if these guys work out against each other for another team, it's very probably Gay will get picked before Morrison. I'll be happy if we get Morrison, but more happy if we get Gay, and I've had this stance since our pick was announced.

I don't think there is anything wrong with posters who have supported Gay to point to this workout and add it to evidence for why we should pick Gay if he's on the board.
I just feel we shouldn't dismiss Morrison simply because of this workout. I guess you are saying it is just more evidence that Gay should be our pick. I think Gay would be a good selection as well. I wouldn't be unhappy if we do end up with Gay, but I just feel there is something special about Morrison. Of course I could be wrong.

This draft is such a tough one to decide because there isn't a for sure #1 pick. There are a few that different people think is the best, but none that the majority thinks is the top pick which does make it a interesting but tough draft. I think it'd be hard to get a majority for the top four players for that matter. When you get to the top six I think it's a little easier to say who is included but even then not everyone would agree.
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