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Old 07-12-2006, 09:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Would Minnesota do this????

It is said they have a $4.2 mil trade exeption.... (correct Storyteller??)

Would they be willing to take on Dan Dickau's $2.6 mil salary with their exeption?????

Do they still need PG's????

They could send us a 2nd round pick..... or a late first rounder...

We would also get a trade exepetion for us....

I just would rahter be rid of Dan's salary... and let Rodriquez play than him (still can not figure out why we took on him in the Boston deal.... )


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Old 07-12-2006, 09:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

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.....I just would rahter be rid of Dan's salary... and let Rodriquez play than him (still can not figure out why we took on him in the Boston deal.... )

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In case Blake was sent somewhere else???
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

I don't see why they would. After signing James, drafting Foye and already having Jaric, Hudson and Banks (who is a FA and might leave though), I just don't see them needing an extra pg.
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

I do understand that part of it... Blake may leave next year via FA

But the Blazer brass seemd to be a bit giddy over Rodriquez... and I think they felt they would not get him... but ended up purchasing him from Phoenix


Now we have 4x PG's..... 1 recovering from achilles injury... the other ankle surgery.... with Blake and Sergio the only real healthy ones....


I think it makes Dan expendable now... Pritchard seemed to think Sergio can play NOW... maybe even be in good enough shape at the start of training camp to earn a spot right away
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

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In case Blake was sent somewhere else???
No, Dan is currently our 4th string PG behind
Jack, Blake, and R.O.Y.

If he stays with us another year and we don't trade/cut anyone,
he'll probably become our 5th string PG, behind
Spanish Chocolate, as well.

Dumping Dan for his salary is probably a good idea, if it's possible.
It would certainly be better for Dan to go somewhere else.

Oh yeah, 2 other things.
The drafting of Rodriguez was Paul Allen's idea, and we have THREE
extra 2nd rounders, in case there is a terrorist plot against the plethora
of PGs we have now
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Old 07-12-2006, 04:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

The Wolves have way too many PG's as it is.
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

what is his contract? if its bad were screwed. he is a backup on any team, 3rd string on most.
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

There's no need to give away a guy for no good reason.

Now that we're back to a position of depth at the point guard spot (I'm talking like we went years without a decent point guard. We dealt bassy and picked up Sergio like two hours later) I'm thinking once again if we're gonna deal a guy it should be who ever gets us back the highest return.

If we're gonna deal a guy I'm thinking Blake. His value has got to be higher than it's ever been right now. Maybe we include him in a deal for Darius to get some sort of decent return.
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

Blake and Sergio are the only healthy PG's right now. Why deal Blake?
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

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Blake and Sergio are the only healthy PG's right now. Why deal Blake?
Because hopefully one of the other two will be healthy by the time the season starts, Roy play a little PG and, most of all, I doubt anybody wants Dickau.
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

Seriously, if anything, I thought that after the draft, we'd know the PG situation. Turns out we went from 3 PGs to 5 (counting Roy.) Someone has to be dealt this summer, and I have a feeling it will be Blake. Which is unfortunate, I like Blake. But if Pritchard is as high on Sergio as people say he is, I'm betting that he'll be the main backup to Jack while Dickau rides pine and Blake is getting quality minutes (hopefully) elsewhere.
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Re: Would Minnesota do this????

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Seriously, if anything, I thought that after the draft, we'd know the PG situation. Turns out we went from 3 PGs to 5 (counting Roy.) Someone has to be dealt this summer, and I have a feeling it will be Blake. Which is unfortunate, I like Blake. But if Pritchard is as high on Sergio as people say he is, I'm betting that he'll be the main backup to Jack while Dickau rides pine and Blake is getting quality minutes (hopefully) elsewhere.
Good post.

There are reasons I endorse trading Blake even though I like him a great deal (obviously) and the fact that he's good for the Blazers:

1. Quality minutes elsewhere. With Jack emerging and Rodriguez promising (but by no means ready), while Blake is Alpha Dog right now because Jack is recovering from surgery, that won't be the case down the road. Blake is better than spot minutes or third string. When I say "good for the Blazers" that means he's one of the few veterans -- albeit a young veteran -- on a very young team that is lacking in veteran experience. He's not a vocal leader, he's more of a "lead by example" guy and maybe the Blazers need someone a little more vocal ... I think its also possible that Blake, as a new guy in Portland, was maybe hesitant to speak up about things because it was his first season there (that sentiment applies to Dixon too).

2. Underappreciated. Blake was still one of the bright spots of a really tough 2005-2006 season. What he seems to get for that from, at least here (and I see likewise and actually worse on the O-Live board, which is a huge joke but I lurk there anyway) is remarks such as "he's taking minutes from so-and-so," or he's too old (wow if 26 is old then I must have one foot in the grave since I'm 40) As for taking minutes from someone, that's up to the individual. It's well documented that Blake has worked his butt off this summer ... the way I see it, as stated above, starting PG is his to lose since Jack is recovering from surgery and Dickau himself is still rehabbing.

3. His career and that of longtime teammate Juan Dixon might benefit if they are separated ... it's like they unintentionally hold one another down. I might need my memory jogged -- has there been another long-running pair of teammates that went into the pros after college (of course there was a one-season gap in the 2002-2003 season, Dixon's first in the NBA and Blake's last at Maryland).
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Good post.

There are reasons I endorse trading Blake even though I like him a great deal (obviously) and the fact that he's good for the Blazers:

1. Quality minutes elsewhere. With Jack emerging and Rodriguez promising (but by no means ready), while Blake is Alpha Dog right now because Jack is recovering from surgery, that won't be the case down the road. Blake is better than spot minutes or third string. When I say "good for the Blazers" that means he's one of the few veterans -- albeit a young veteran -- on a very young team that is lacking in veteran experience. He's not a vocal leader, he's more of a "lead by example" guy and maybe the Blazers need someone a little more vocal ... I think its also possible that Blake, as a new guy in Portland, was maybe hesitant to speak up about things because it was his first season there (that sentiment applies to Dixon too).

2. Underappreciated. Blake was still one of the bright spots of a really tough 2005-2006 season. What he seems to get for that from, at least here (and I see likewise and actually worse on the O-Live board, which is a huge joke but I lurk there anyway) is remarks such as "he's taking minutes from so-and-so," or he's too old (wow if 26 is old then I must have one foot in the grave since I'm 40) As for taking minutes from someone, that's up to the individual. It's well documented that Blake has worked his butt off this summer ... the way I see it, as stated above, starting PG is his to lose since Jack is recovering from surgery and Dickau himself is still rehabbing.

3. His career and that of longtime teammate Juan Dixon might benefit if they are separated ... it's like they unintentionally hold one another down. I might need my memory jogged -- has there been another long-running pair of teammates that went into the pros after college (of course there was a one-season gap in the 2002-2003 season, Dixon's first in the NBA and Blake's last at Maryland).
Dude, your post is classic example of Denial.

You state that is makes sense to trade Blake, but then go into a lengthy discussion, whereby one can only conclude he should NOT be traded. Maybe this is clever psychology on your part, but I do not see the body of your text supporting your initial comments. This is not to say I do not agree with it; your comments on Blake being quiet as a "new" player and separating Blake and Dixon make good sense to me.

Blake is currently the best PG on this team. We have another 2nd year player who showed promise last year and is recovering from minor surgery, another young vet recovering from a serious injury and not likely to contribute right way, and an inexperienced flashy euro who nobody can even predict on whether or not he can perform in the NBA. So, you basically have one solid PG and 3 question marks of varying degrees.

As far as trades go, because of Blake's underpaid status, there is little or nothing you can get in return. The only reason to trade him would be to package him with someone else to get rid of a cancer and/or get someone else we really need. It's really that simple.
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Because hopefully one of the other two will be healthy by the time the season starts, Roy play a little PG and, most of all, I doubt anybody wants Dickau.
Agreed.. but Blake was (by some) considered a very good pickup last year. Capable of runing the team, and doing fairly well. Even good at times.

Do we really want to deal him away and loose the vet leadership at the PG spot that we have?

Do we want to put all our eggs in the Sergio basket???

or put them in the hands of a short term, inconsistant, oft injured vet in Dickau who is coming back from an achilles injury?

If I were building the team... I would not depend on players who have been injured.


I am all for Jack making a full recovery and doing well again. I think he will be a very good player in the league. But until he comes back. I think we need to keep Blake as insurance untl Sergio proves he can handle the job. A Jack and Sergio tandem in years to come could be pretty good if Sergio really does have that kind of potential

I do not even want Dickau to make the roster this year. Loose the salary some how... in a Miles trade throw in style.
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