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Old 07-21-2006, 05:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

Z Bo is almost 10 years younger. He has a chance to recover from his surgery, Webber has no such chance. He does what he can with no athleticism. I'm actually fairly impressed that Webber can still put up the #s he does on one leg
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:44 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

yuck are you serious
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Old 07-21-2006, 06:00 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

I think Philly has pretty much decided to rebuild. I don't see them trading Cwebb. I think AI is on the move for young players and they will wait for Cwebb's contract to expire. They might trade his expiring deal for an allstar in return, but i'm not Randolph would be the player they are looking for. Cheeks and Randolph and/or Miles reunion would be funny,.
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Old 07-21-2006, 07:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

Do you post on the O-Live board, KMurph?

I check it out once in a blue moon, and I saw this exact scenario posted there.
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Old 07-21-2006, 07:49 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

No, Wait a year until Webber is in the Final Year of his deal.
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

As a Sixers fan, there's no chance in hell that I would do this trade. I really see no positives in the deal for them.
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

...and watch his *** hobble around on a bad leg shooting jumpshots?

no thank you.

i like webber, hes cool.


but zach is a smarter choice from a basketball standpoint. they both blaze trees, so its not like your shedding the bad boy of the team.
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Old 07-22-2006, 09:58 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

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It might be important to note that one of your pieces in the deal, John Salmons, now plays for the Toronto Raptors.
No, he regrets it on TO, and Philadelphia rescinded his qualifying offer, so he is a unrestricted FA now.
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

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As a Sixers fan, there's no chance in hell that I would do this trade. I really see no positives in the deal for them.
Other than getting a much younger player...no positives huh? I would say a "HELL NO" to this deal as a Blazer fan. Webber is on his final leg (literally) and Z-bo is the better player right now.
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

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Other than getting a much younger player...no positives huh? I would say a "HELL NO" to this deal as a Blazer fan. Webber is on his final leg (literally) and Z-bo is the better player right now.
Well what's Z-Bo really going to do for the Sixers? I'd rather keep Webber's contract and let him come off the books in two years than get a hobbled black hole who doesn't play defense in Randolph.
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

Exactly, I'm sure not too many GMs are rushing to Portland trying to steal ZBo from the Blazers. He has shown that he can play well, but after last season his stock dropped and his off-court issues make him even less valuable. That's why I wrote Philly will most likely wait out the last two years of that deal, and then have a lot of cap room to work with.
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Old 07-22-2006, 01:40 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?

I think a case can be made for either side of this trade.

To begin with, Zach is worth more than Weber, though both are overpriced.

Weber 42 mil for 2 years

Zach some 70 mil for 5 years

If price was no object, Zach is a better player at this stage in their careers- Weber's numbers are a bit empty in my opinion, and they will only go down. Zach is a good bet to return to 20/10.

Weber is a bigger discontent than Zach.

I'd say on the free agent market, Zach would fetch close to 10 million and Weber close to 7 or 8 mil- so Zach is less overpriced.

Given all that, however, Weber is not a huge drop off from Randolph in the next 2 years and would offer some salary cap room much sooner.

He could ease the transition into Aldridge pretty well if he kept his head on straight.

An interesting trade.

If Philly was willing to throw in Igoudola, I"d take it.
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If price was no object, Zach is a better player at this stage in their careers- Weber's numbers are a bit empty in my opinion, and they will only go down. Zach is a good bet to return to 20/10.
I'm not a Webber fan at all, but how would Zach's 20 and 10 be any less empty than Webber's? Both are low percentage shooting four men, who struggle defensively.
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