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07-21-2006, 11:03 AM
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Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
I think they should consider it...IF it were an option....
I don't think Webber is a long term answer for POR, nor do I think he wants to go to POR, nor do I think it is a fair talent exchange at this stage of Webber's career...
I do think that POR would need to expand the deal to make it more beneficial for them now and more importantly in the future...
I really like John Salmons, and think he is at the stage of his career where he is ready to take off as a player....He is 26yrs old and coming off his best year in the NBA....I think getting him in this deal as part of a S&T would be good....
Why Webber?
Well 1st, he is a better player than Zach is, even at the age of 33...The guy averaged 20.2 ppg, 9.9 rpg & 3.4 apg last year....
2nd....He has two years left on his deal, compared to Zach's 5 years left....and IMO POR can turn around and deal him (and they would) either at the trade deadline this year (or next) to a team looking for a player to put them over the top, but not having to absorb a long term deal (an important aspect) in the process
OR next year when his contract is expiring....A lot of that would depend on when Aldridge is ready to start....and while Zach may be a younger player...He comes with a LOT more baggage at this point.....both the size and length of his contract and his off court escapades make dealing him a little difficult IMO...whereas Webber may be getting long in the tooth, the bottom line is he still produces and his contract at this point is rather short...and I am sure he wants to win a title, and I am also sure that a playoff team would take a shot on him...b\c of his ability....and b\c of his "short" contract
and like I stated above, I do think POR could get a few other players or a pick in the deal...and POR could also help clean out some of their overstuffed roster in the process by orchestrating a 2 for 3 or 2 for 4 type of deal...
My proposal would be Zach, Skinner and Dixon for Webber & S&T Salmons...OR
Zach, Skinner and Dixon for Webber and Korver
Just a thought....
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07-21-2006, 11:05 AM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
Zach, Miles, Dixon, and Skinner for Webber, Salmons, and Korver?
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07-21-2006, 11:08 AM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
Very intrigueing idea...I like it, but I'm not sure about Webbers attitude at this stage, though it's probably better than Zachs.
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07-21-2006, 11:17 AM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
I wouldn't mind a swap of Zach for Webber. Webber's contract has become reasonable and has become more of an asset now that it only has 2 years left on it. If possibly I would do the deal without Korver's long contract. A resigned Salmon and Webber would work out for me. I wonder If Zach was ever on good terms with Coach Cheeks, maybe Cheeks can make a push for Zach.
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07-21-2006, 11:29 AM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
Simple and expected answer from me
YES!!!!!!
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07-21-2006, 11:44 AM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
JUST SAY no to C Webb...
BUT
the idea of a salary dump intrigues me.... but I think there are better offers out there for Zach than this
if the deal can be Zach, Raef, Darius, Juan and Dickau...... for C Webb and ? then maybe we do it... we get rid of the 2x most expensive contracts + Darius, and Juan and Dan who I do not think have a role on this team in the long run
Zach, Darius, Juan, Dan and Raef for Webber and Dalembert
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07-21-2006, 11:44 AM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
Webber is a gimp now. We would have to get other talent in return for sure, which IMO would have to be a SF.
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07-21-2006, 11:46 AM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
Only if we get rid of Miles in the same trade!!
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07-21-2006, 12:06 PM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
sure.. but theres no way that zbo and miles would be reunited with mo cheeks. theres a better chance of jennifer aniston starring in a good movie.
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07-21-2006, 12:08 PM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
No thanks. Webber sucks now. Zach still has the possibility of being good. It depends on the condition of his knee.
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07-21-2006, 12:18 PM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
I wouldn't do it. Webber makes $43m over 2 years and Zach makes $73m over 5 years... dumping Zach to get out from under his salary isn't something I want to do at this point.
If he has a good year, and actually acquires some trade value? I'd be more interested in moving him. But not just to be rid of him, as in this kind of trade.
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07-21-2006, 12:31 PM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
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sure.. but theres no way that zbo and miles would be reunited with mo cheeks. theres a better chance of jennifer aniston starring in a good movie.
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ever seen office space?
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07-21-2006, 12:37 PM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
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Originally Posted by deanwoof
sure.. but theres no way that zbo and miles would be reunited with mo cheeks. theres a better chance of jennifer aniston starring in a good movie.
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She was in Office Space
D;oh posted before i read the whole thread.
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07-21-2006, 12:56 PM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
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No thanks. Webber sucks now.
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That is ridiculous....He averaged 20ppg 9.9 boards and like 3-1/2 assists last year...If that sucks...then just about the entire league sucks
and Webber is CLEARLY a better player than Zach is...even at the ripe old age of 33
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07-21-2006, 01:39 PM
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Re: Should POR deal Zach for Webber?
IMO, just say no to Webber. He's hobbled, and aging. I rather give Zach another year to show how he can play after he has time to heal from is surgery.
As far as C-Web having less baggage....I'm not so sure:
He has two MJ charges, and he copped a plea to avoid perjury charges for lying to a grand jury. If the star witness had not died just before the perjury trail, CW could very likely have spent some time in jail.
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