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07-29-2006, 04:21 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
this is a really nice steal for us. we'll basically be able to run a front court of Randolph, Przybilla and Magloire, with Aldridge getting garbage minutes.
with Magloire and Roy basically replacing the minutes played by Ratliff and Telfair, our rebounding woes should be over with.
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07-29-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
I hope the 2 open roster spots are setting up a follow-up trade.
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07-29-2006, 04:26 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
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presumably this means the blazers ARE counting on at least spot minutes at point for roy, giving webster more room at 2.
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Or they will sign Pargo, or think Dickau is a servicable 2nd string PG.
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07-29-2006, 04:34 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
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Blake is pretty replaceable talent. I don't consider giving him up to be a loss. Ha Seung-Jin was never likely to amount to anything in the NBA, he was always a longshot flier. Brian Skinner I thought was a useful reserve, but Magloire has the potential to do more than Skinner.
Magloire and Pryzbilla gives Portland a heck of a center rotation. It also allows them to deal Randolph, without starting Aldridge...Portland could always start Magloire at power forward.
This is the perfect sort of acquistion to me. It shouldn't take them out of the Oden lottery, but gives them more useful pieces to surround whomever they get in the 2007 draft.
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07-29-2006, 04:37 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
I hope we dump both Dan and Dixon in favor of a cheap Pargo. Jannero is a very efficient scorer, who can also handle the ball and play as a true PG. He is very hot-or-cold, but so was Bobby Jackson back in his prime. I think Pargo has been waiting for a chance to get some time as the #2 point guard ever since his 13.5ppg and 3.6apg during his 1st stint with Chicago. Dump Dixon and/or Dickau for nothing, sign Pargo and this is how I see our roster...
PG- J.Jack/J.Pargo/B.Roy
SG- B.Roy/M.Webster/J.Pargo
SF- D.Miles/T.Outlaw/M.Webster
PF- Z.Randolph/J.Magloire/L.Aldridge
C- J.Magloire/J.Pryzbilla/R.LaFrentz
You know what. If Miles can get like half of his brain together and we stay healthy, I could see this being a suprise, 35-40 win team this season.
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07-29-2006, 04:37 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
maybe this is easy for the front office to do because they feel roy can man some minutes at the point this year...which might be nice...so he can play alongside web
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07-29-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
This is really intersting. a look at some quick minutes. Barring a trade of one of the bigs...(Storyteller or some other guru could let me know when Magloire, or LaFrentz could be dealt) it looks like this
96 minutes for 4 players at the C and PF possition, not including Aldridge. That's an average of 24 minutes a piece which won't sit well with someone
At the 3 we have 3 players that can all play the possition in Miles(assuming he's still here) Outlaw and Webster...Roy can too, but we will leave him out for now. With Webster ability to play the two the helps, but 48 minutes is what it is. With the starter getting 30+ that leaves roughly 15-18 minutes for Outlaw and Webster a bit
1 and 2 Jack, Dickau, Rodriguez, Pargo?, Roy, Dixon and Webster. That's another 96 minutes. Assuming again that Jack and Webster start and Webster plays 5 or so minutes at the 3 that leaves 40ish minutes for back ups. Rodriguez won't play a lot, Roy should get 25-30 minutes and that leaves Dixon 10-15 minutes which is 10-15 minutes too many as far as I'm concerned. Anyway my point is no problem in the back court.
Unless the Blazers are banking on Joel to get hurt..(which is not a bad idea because he has been almost every year) They have to be moving someone.....don't they?
The other thing I think we should start thinking about seriously is the fact that Greg Oden is quickly becoming a player we will not have a shot at...that's both good and bad I guess.
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07-29-2006, 04:50 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
I think we will still have a shot at Joel, we will likley still be one of the 5 worst teams. Lets say we improve by 10 wins, were still at 30 wins and have a 5-7 pick, their is still some chance.
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07-29-2006, 04:55 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
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I'm not sure I get this trade. I thought we wanted to dump Miles or Randolph, not Steve Blake. Is Magliore really worth giving up Blake? Even though we have a logjam at shooting guard, I like the idea of having somebody like Blake who is steady, smart, and a good shooter.
But maybe I'm underestimating Magliore. I don't think I've ever seen him play. Is he good?
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I would think this trade is being made so that we can package Magloire with Miles near the trade deadline. Magloire is in the last year of his contract and will be a very appealing player to several teams half way through the season.
Regardless, this is a steal for the Blazers. We're trading quantity for quality. You do that anytime you can. And Jack is better than Steve anyways.
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07-29-2006, 04:55 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
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I think we will still have a shot at Joel, we will likley still be one of the 5 worst teams. Lets say we improve by 10 wins, were still at 30 wins and have a 5-7 pick, their is still some chance.
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LOL at the slip there. I'm sure Greg will be happy to know he's getting mixed up with our 7 and 6 center.
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07-29-2006, 04:57 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
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The other thing I think we should start thinking about seriously is the fact that Greg Oden is quickly becoming a player we will not have a shot at...that's both good and bad I guess.
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I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself there... this team is still pretty bad, and while I like the additions, we're still pretty weak at the 1, 2, and 3 spots.
Even assuming we can add Pargo, we'll have:
PG: Jack, Dickau, Pargo
SG: Roy, Dixon, Webster
SF: Miles, Outlaw
Unless Miles comes back with his head screwed on straight and Roy and Jack are actually reasonable starters right off the bat, we're going to have troubles at those spots on a nightly basis.
It's OK, because a terrible team can't become good overnight, but we're still one of the worst 5 teams in the NBA... maybe just not THE worst.
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07-29-2006, 05:01 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
Great trade but I agree that someone else will go no later than midseason. If anybody would've said we were gonna have a logjam at those positions after summer camp...I would've seriously questioned their reasoning.
Peace
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07-29-2006, 05:02 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
I liked Steve Blake. Ah well, hope it all works out.
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07-29-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: Done Deal!!
I would not be surprised at all if the Blazer Brass told Joel and Webster that they will be playing Magliore and Miles a lot before the trade deadline to try and up their value. Both Joel and Webster strike me as people who would not complain if this happened over the short term.
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