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**Trader Ed** · 07-31-2006, 11:45 AM

The trade as rumored does not work according to the math. If I am wrong kindly point it out to me

Magloire salary is $9.259 mil

according to the CBA, since Milwaukee is over the cap, you must be within 25% of the slary in order to do a trade

that means you can take back a min of $6.95 mil, and take a max of $11.57 mil

Skinner makes $5.4 mil, Blalke $1 mil, and Ha $0.7 mil or $7.1 mil total

As far as Milwaukee end of it... the $7.1 mil in return follows the CBA

But Portland is over the cap as well.... and $7.1 mil in salary you are allowed to take back $8.875 mil

Magloires salary is $9.259... which is greater than the 25%

I am sure this is no problem... but its interesting... unless my calculator is suddenly doing bad math

Boob-No-More · 07-31-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Trader Bob

The trade as rumored does not work according to the math. If I am wrong kindly point it out to me

Magloire salary is $9.259 mil

Acording to hoopshype.com and every report I've read on this trade, Magloire is set to make $8.3 miilion this season.

BNM

**Trader Ed** · 07-31-2006, 11:53 AM

I agree.. I have heard that as well on another site. But Hoopshype salaries are not that dependable, and I trust Storytellers numbers more.

But I am sure in this case.. the $8.3 mil is probably more accurate

**cpawfan** · 07-31-2006, 11:55 AM

As a minor note

1.25(x)=y means x=.8(y) so you have to multiply Magloire's salary by .8 not by .75

Also, Hoopshype has Magloire's cap number as 8.3 million which would make the deal work

**Trader Ed** · 07-31-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cpawfan

As a minor note

1.25(x)=y means x=.8(y) so you have to multiply Magloire's salary by .8 not by .75

Also, Hoopshype has Magloire's cap number as 8.3 million which would make the deal work

It talks about 125% and not the inverse (I agree with your inverse number by the way)

there is also the $100K portion to the rule

A team can always take less money in.. such as what Milwukee is doing

We are adding $2.1 mil in salary if its $9.259 mil

**cpawfan** · 07-31-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Trader Bob

It talks about 125% and not the inverse (I agree with your inverse number by the way)

there is also the $100K portion to the rule

A team can always take less money in.. such as what Milwukee is doing

We are adding $2.1 mil in salary if its $9.259 mil

The inverse is implied. It has to be there otherwise calculations would fall apart.

And no, teams over the cap, can't take in less money than the traded player exception allows. The very nature of using the traded player exception ensures that. The only way that can happen is if after trading a player away, the team then drops under the cap.

**Trader Ed** · 07-31-2006, 12:13 PM

sure you can

it only takes a 3rd team involved... and them being under the cap

or using a 3rd team.. all teams over the cap

team A ($20 mil OUT) receives 25% under or $15 mil.. and you deal with team B which is already 25% under team A (deals $15 mil OUT) .... team C deals out $11.25 mil OUT... can receive in about $14 mil

players are disperesed between the 3 teams

If you are team A and receive team C type of dispersed values.... you get a double dose of 25% less of trade value... 56.25% of team A.... a lot less

and all legal...

**cpawfan** · 07-31-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trader Bob

sure you can

it only takes a 3rd team involved... and them being under the cap

Changing the basis for your statement changes the basis for my answer.

Any time you add a 3rd team that is under the cap, lots of things become possible. Donald Sterling lined his pockets a few times for the use of his cap space. I'm very surprised the cash strapped Bobcats haven't done the same thing

**Trader Ed** · 07-31-2006, 12:19 PM

agreed

**cpawfan** · 07-31-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Trader Bob

or using a 3rd team.. all teams over the cap

team A ($20 mil OUT) receives 25% under or $15 mil.. and you deal with team B which is already 25% under team A (deals $15 mil OUT) .... team C deals out $11.25 mil OUT... can receive in about $14 mil

players are disperesed between the 3 teams

If you are team A and receive team C type of dispersed values.... you get a double dose of 25% less of trade value... 56.25% of team A.... a lot less

and all legal...

You're still using .75(x) instead of .8(x)

In a 3 way deal, what each team sends out in total must match up with what they get back by the rule of the TPE.

If Team C is sending out $11.25, they can receive a maximum back of $14.1625 in salary.
If Team B is sending out $15, they can receive a maximum back of $18.85 in salary.

That equals an amount of $33.0125 maximum salaries take in so far for a total of $26.25 going out. The total amount going out in your example is $46.25 which is $13.2375 more than the maximum taken in.

Team A can't take in $13.2375 for sending out $20 because it violates the TPE. The key is this statement is Coon's faq

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As described in question number 67, exceptions are the mechanisms that allow teams to function above the salary cap. Any trade which results in the team ending up over the salary cap requires an exception. This is true even if the team is moving downward in salary. For example, if the salary cap is $50 million, a team has a team salary of $55 million, and they want to trade a $5 million player for a $4 million player, they still have to use an exception. Even though their team salary would be decreasing by $1 million, the fact that they would still be over the salary cap ($54 million) means that an exception is required.

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