Verro

Atl has 3 long athletic young wings in Smith, Marvin and Childress, but no true starting quality center.

If Miles is eventually traded Portland will be forced to play Webster at SF which really isn't his natural position. Ideally we'd want more rebounding out of our SF and more length on defense. Portland also has 2 quality centers in Pryzbilla and Magloire.

To acquire young talent you really have to trade young talent or a superstar (which we don't have). So as painful as it would be trading Webster and Magloire for Marvin Williams would be a solid move for the Blazers. While the salaries don't match Atl is far enough under the cap for this to work.

I consider Marvin to have the highest ceiling of the 3 Atl SF's, higher than even Martell's. He'd provide significantly more rebounds from the 3 and would be a better defender, offensively I see them putting up similar numbers with Marvin having a higher FG%.

Jack
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That could be 4/5 of an amazing young core, which would compliment each other very well.

If Portland came away with Oden or possibly Brandan Wright from the next draft, the sky would be the limit.

Ed O

That would be an excellent trade for the Blazers... I know that people like Webster but Williams has an incredibly high ceiling. I think he's a MUCH better prospect than Webster and would be thrilled to get him.

Webster is still young, of course, but Marvin is less than 6 months older than Martell and has a more well-rounded game with tons more athleticisim. And he's a couple of inches taller.

I seriously doubt the Hawks would do this kind of deal, though.

Ed O.

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deanwoof

Look at it from Atlanta's brass' way. They already got ****ted on for passing up Chris Paul for Marvin Williams. And now they turn around and trade him for a center and another wing player, when they just signed Lorenzen Wright

Yeah from Atlanta it'd be very unpopular.

Let's think of a way to get rid of Miles before we think about adding other players.

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Why? Why should we let someone like Miles stop the team from making other moves that would improve the franchise?

Unless you think that the team can only work on one thing at a time (which is not true) or that Miles can, somehow, magically sink the future of the entire franchise (which could be your opinion, but is quite silly, IMO), then even IF trading Miles is a priority, it should stop the team from looking for--and making--moves that have NOTHING to do with Darius.

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Verro

Yeah I just saw the Lorenzen Wright trade, that definitely negates a lot of incentive Atl would have to make a move like this.

Superblaze

Cap problems and salary aside, Miles for Josh childress would be a much better deal for us, talent wise, I mean Childress is starting to improve with playing time, he could start at the 3 for us right away, plus he can play better defense then marvin williams right now. Even if he only produces 2 points a game anything would be better then have to put up with Miles.

SheedSoNasty

That may have worked if Steve Blake were still around. Otherwise, I don't see a way to make things work without us getting duped.

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ROTF....horrid trade. Webster is going to be a lot better then Marvin "call me poor mans Twan Jamison" Williams...and we throw in JMags as well...no way. We need shooting, Wesbter provides that and more.

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mediocre man

Would have been a great trade IMO. Williams is a PF I think. Trading for him, then trading Zach for a SF would have made the Blazers better faster.

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I've been pondering over how to slip Josh and/or Marvin away from the Hawks as well. Seems to me that a Miles, Randolf, Magloire package (no I haven't checked the trade checker), might just land us both. I think Marvin can play some 4 though I have to admit his best position probably is the 3.

I would do that trade and not even blink. I know it's a lot to give up but I love the upside of both players and Josh played at Stanford so I'm guessing he would enjoy a trip back to the west coast.

YardApe

If Marvin Williams had stayed at UNC we would be talking about him the way we did of Jordan when Worthy went pro. Marvin needed another year of college. I still think he'll be a very special player but understanding the game at this level is soooo fast and hard you really need a good teacher and Atl isn't the place for that.

I wonder if Marvin and Webster played against each other ever since they are both from Washington high schools?

sa1177

Williams is 6-9, 225lbs..he would get abused as a starting NBA power forward.

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mediocre man

You are right, but I was speaking more for the future. He'll grow into a 6'9" 245lb guy.

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